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    Wak Security Police for the NTS

    Hey Steve. I currently service the kitchen hoods and exhaust system for the NTS. The security police there are not playing around. We just did a kitchen there that is approximately 50 minutes deep into the test site. Now, we did not know this, but the kitchen hall that we were doing was in a very small little 2 story building that looked as though it were built in the early 1800. Its was run down and falling apart. However, the owner of my company opened up a door to try and gain easy access to our equip that was outside. Within approximately 5 seconds of that door being opened, we had 6 Security Police Officer pulling up in 4X4 trucks and jumping out with what appeared to be M-16, and had them aimed at us and demanding us onto the ground or they would open fire. Now, I have been doing Security for the Casino' here in Vegas for almost 7 years, and never have I seen this kind of work go down. With that being said, these guys are not there to play games. They have all power and rights to shoot and ask questions later. The building we were doing was the actual fall-out shelter building. That is where the movie theatre of screens and the red phone from the President sits and the main button to launch lies. After this incident, the gentleman who was following us at this place at all times now currently holds the possistion of Safety Instructor for the NTS. He has worked for NTS for almost 40 years. He told me a few stories about the Civillian police there, and that they are the same for A-51. He was also employeed there for several years prior to opening the NTS. He didnt say much but he did say that they are above the law, so to say. I am trying to get a job in the Security field for the NTS, I am just getting my foot in the door with the hood exhaust cleaning company. Our company has done these kitchen for NTS since 1955. That is a solid contract.

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    Just wanted to weigh in here a little. I think the statement by the OIG friend is pretty misleading. Yes, all DOE installations are protected by contract employees, however there is a reason for that. Because at this point its not only policy, but law regarding cradle to the grave restrictions on Nuclear Weapons and Special Nuclear Material. Anyway, to say its a security guard job with some fancy training, implies to me that the OIG employee could never make the training that we undergo. The average hourly rate for Security Police Officers is 27 dollars per hour. That is averaged across the Nation, so some higher a few a little lower. There are Traffic divisions, Special Response Teams at Category 1 sites that rival ANY SWAT or teams around as evidenced by their YEARLY national wins at various competitions against LOA and Military teams. Its naive to think that the Government would have keystone cops responsible for the protection of the Nations "crown jewels". Far from it. SPOs have arrest authority under 10 cfr 1047 and are the ONLY entity authorized by Federal Law to use deadly force for the protection of property. 10 weeks at Kirtland AFB, then 6 more weeks of SRT training then on to more specialized training if your site employs them. SRS even has air insertion by helo. Annual recurring medical and physical fitness qualifications, semi annual multiple weapon systems qualifications along with specialized training qualifications. So, again it is for SURE NOT a security guard position with some fancy training. But it also is not LE for sure. If these guys use their LE authority then something bad has happened somewhere. Just thought id put my two cents worth in on this so that there was no confusion about it being a glorified security guard job. PM me if you want more info and ill be glad to share!

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