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    Voting standards need to be seriously tightened....

    Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the democratic candidate for the U.S. senate seat for the state of South Carolina:

    Alvin Greene.....


    This gentleman has clearly shown that he lacks the appropriate judgment needed to successfully manage his OWN life, let alone those of others. And yet, he received SIXTY PERCENT of the democratic vote in his state.

    IMO, it is again time to evaluate voting standards. At a minimum, I would like to see the following qualification enhancements:

    1. Verification of identity and U.S. citizenship at the voting site.
    2. Education requirement of at least a H.S. diploma or equivalent.
    3. Successful completion of a civics test, in English, prior to being issued a voter card.
    4. Denial of voting privileges to those on public assistance.

    If we aren't careful, the next Presidential candidate could very well be Lad(die)y GaGa...

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    It doesn't surprise me at all. Democrats, liberals have consistently been angry ignorant voters. That is a perfect candidate for them. They problem is they think they are so much smarter than us, and they show over and over, that they cannot be trusted to run this country in a morally sound, intelligent, fiscally sound, manner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoetheGI View Post
    IMO, it is again time to evaluate voting standards. At a minimum, I would like to see the following qualification enhancements:

    1. Verification of identity and U.S. citizenship at the voting site.
    2. Education requirement of at least a H.S. diploma or equivalent.
    3. Successful completion of a civics test, in English, prior to being issued a voter card.
    4. Denial of voting privileges to those on public assistance.
    So you believe someone who's a hard worker and laid off from their job (which has happened to thousands in this recession) who received unemployment benefits should be revoked their right to vote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    So you believe someone who's a hard worker and laid off from their job (which has happened to thousands in this recession) who received unemployment benefits should be revoked their right to vote?
    I find it very hard to believe that anyone thinks that. I do think that these scumbags who's whole family has been on welfare and food stamps for generation after generation , never paid taxes, or social security, or anything else should not be able to vote. Two totally seperate issues. You deserve unemployment you dont deserve social services if you can work.

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    I agree that the guy has serious problems.

    However, I strongly disagree with 2-4 of your platform, and there are implementation issues with #1.

    The Constitution specifies that all citizens get to vote, period. Changing that is a bad idea. It would establish people (largely poor people) who are subject to the laws of the nation, but with no voice in how it is run.

    That's a bad idea in my book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outshined View Post
    I find it very hard to believe that anyone thinks that. I do think that these scumbags who's whole family has been on welfare and food stamps for generation after generation , never paid taxes, or social security, or anything else should not be able to vote. Two totally seperate issues. You deserve unemployment you dont deserve social services if you can work.
    And I would agree 100%, but unemployment IS public-funded assistance. Not all public-funded assistance is a burden on hardworking Americans or promotes lazy, irresponsible lifestyles.
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    In all honesty, if I had to decide between him and Pelosi if they were running for the same seat, I'd pick this guy. At least he has no idea how he would vote so he wouldn't intentionally screw things up.
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    I'm not sure what's more pathetic: Alvin Greene's responses or O'Donnell's comment about Greene being a better candidate than DeMint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimble View Post
    And I would agree 100%, but unemployment IS public-funded assistance. Not all public-funded assistance is a burden on hardworking Americans or promotes lazy, irresponsible lifestyles.
    And every time someone mentions public assistance someone says what about unemployment. Unemployment INSURANCE is payed by your employer in case something happens and jobs are lost. I don't believe it is tax payer funded in all instances. If you work for a private employer, they pay unemployment insurance for you from their profits, it never touches the public.

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    My neighbor has been on unemployment for about 2 1/2 years. She's making a pretty good racket off it. She worked for about 3 weeks, didn't like the job stress and quit. As far as I'm concerned, unemployment compesnation should be a loan, not government assistance. You should either pay in advance, or pay it back afterward.

    Labor unions are great for sucking unemployment dry. Your average steelworkers union or laborers union employee just collects state compensation when there isn't any work. It's a regular thing for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggy View Post
    My neighbor has been on unemployment for about 2 1/2 years. She's making a pretty good racket off it. She worked for about 3 weeks, didn't like the job stress and quit. As far as I'm concerned, unemployment compesnation should be a loan, not government assistance. You should either pay in advance, or pay it back afterward.

    Labor unions are great for sucking unemployment dry. Your average steelworkers union or laborers union employee just collects state compensation when there isn't any work. It's a regular thing for them.
    Well you cannot get unemployment here if you quit your job. You have to be layed off or lose your job due to something other than your actions, and you cannot be on it for 2 1/2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoetheGI View Post

    IMO, it is again time to evaluate voting standards. At a minimum, I would like to see the following qualification enhancements:

    1. Verification of identity and U.S. citizenship at the voting site.
    2. Education requirement of at least a H.S. diploma or equivalent.
    3. Successful completion of a civics test, in English, prior to being issued a voter card.
    4. Denial of voting privileges to those on public assistance.

    If we aren't careful, the next Presidential candidate could very well be Lad(die)y GaGa...
    GI Joe, I share your sentiment and have for a very long time, believe me. In fact in my fantasy world, I kid there should be a test for both voting and having children. But in reality, I don't really believe either...because it stomps on too many legitimate rights in the process. Therefore, I don't agree with 2, 3, or 4.

    Let me start with #3: I know lots AND lots of "educated" people that would fail a civics test. I mean lots. I've also found a shocking number of Americans who can't even find the three countries of Afghanistan, Iraq, or Iran on a map. Forget the next trouble spot of Yemen. And besides, a lot about "civics" is open to too much interpretation. Look at how many people think the Constitution is outdated.

    #2. I don't judge people's level of intelligence by their degrees. I have seen many young enlisted folks (and yes they have your minimum HS degree) in the military who have more knowledge of history than 100% of the advanced degree people I work around in the business world.

    #4. I agree with Outshined who makes the distinction that it is companies that pay for unemployment (although I'm not sure it's 100%), but I think there are plenty of examples of good people who've had to use public assistance, and it's too sweeping a category.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Piggy View Post
    My neighbor has been on unemployment for about 2 1/2 years. She's making a pretty good racket off it. She worked for about 3 weeks, didn't like the job stress and quit. As far as I'm concerned, unemployment compesnation should be a loan, not government assistance. You should either pay in advance, or pay it back afterward.

    Labor unions are great for sucking unemployment dry. Your average steelworkers union or laborers union employee just collects state compensation when there isn't any work. It's a regular thing for them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Outshined View Post
    Well you cannot get unemployment here if you quit your job. You have to be layed off or lose your job due to something other than your actions, and you cannot be on it for 2 1/2 years.
    I have no doubt there are people abusing unemployment, Piggy. However the rules in Virginia are the same as Outshined's state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Outshined View Post
    Well you cannot get unemployment here if you quit your job. You have to be layed off or lose your job due to something other than your actions, and you cannot be on it for 2 1/2 years.
    Same here, you can't quit and draw it. And as liberal as Oregon is, they don't pay unemployment for 2 1/2 years, I know that. There are always some people living on the dole, but right now a lot of people are legitimately unemployed.

    The South had ways of keeping poor people from voting when I was a kid. I don't want to go back to that.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Something isn't quite right about Alvin Greene. I don't think the guy could put a sentence together on his own. He obviously remembered a few lines some one has drilled into him. Oh well, as if any Democrat had a chance against DeMint.
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