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    Is the rest of the country going crazy over Dan Cathy's comments about marriage or is it just down here in the South? If you support them Wednesday is "Chic-fil-a Appreciation day" and if you don't well I guess you just don't go there anymore.

    Personally, I think it is there First Amendment right to say whatever they want. Secondly, how can anyone be suprised that these are the views held and supported by a CHRISTIAN organization? They have never hidden that fact, and they are one of the few, maybe even only, national chain that is closed on Sunday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT7980 View Post
    Is the rest of the country going crazy over Dan Cathy's comments about marriage or is it just down here in the South? If you support them Wednesday is "Chic-fil-a Appreciation day" and if you don't well I guess you just don't go there anymore.

    Personally, I think it is there First Amendment right to say whatever they want. Secondly, how can anyone be suprised that these are the views held and supported by a CHRISTIAN organization? They have never hidden that fact, and they are one of the few, maybe even only, national chain that is closed on Sunday!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BT7980 View Post
    Personally, I think it is there First Amendment right to say whatever they want. Secondly, how can anyone be suprised that these are the views held and supported by a CHRISTIAN organization? They have never hidden that fact, and they are one of the few, maybe even only, national chain that is closed on Sunday!
    1. The First Amendment protects you from actions from the government, not the public. Boycotts are perfectly legal in this country. They have every right to support any cause they want and people have every right to ask others not to eat there, just as you have a right to call an appreciation day. Oddly enough, the freedom of speech applies to everyone, not just the people you want to support.

    2. Funny how Christians find passages in the Old Testament to justify their actions and not what Christ taught. Show me a passage where Jesus condemned gay people. Also odd how "Christians" forget that He taught about the grace of God and to not judge others. Nor do I think He or God appointed anyone down here to decide who goes to hell and who doesn't. I really don't think Christ would be real choked up about all the haters who call themselves Christians. I believe I'm a Christian, which means I try to follow the teachings of Jesus, not homophobics.

    At what point does homophobia reach the level of these idiots? Do you see a problem with their actions? They pretty much share the same beliefs as Chick-Fil-A, don't they? They just take it to a higher level. Where's the line or do you see no problem with them picketing and disrupting veterans' funerals?



    I'm not gay, have never been sexually attracted to another man nor do I even know any gay people that want to get married. I have no dog in this fight, but I also have never had two men being together cause me the least amount of problem either. But I guess I'm secure enough in my sexuality that they are no threat to me.

    What consenting adults do sexually is none of anyone else's business. And if they want to get married, the only downside I see is it will put more money in the pockets of divorce lawyers.

    I know this goes beyond the gay marriage issue, but I get tired of people worrying about what others do and think they're the only ones with rights. The Constitution says nothing about marriage and gay couples are only wanting the legal rights entitled to a married couple. Not your's or anyone else's religious blessings.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    I don't care what anyone does behind closed doors. I care when they flaunt it in public....hetrosexual or homosexual. I don't care about anothers view. I will listen, but their actions are what I care about.

    CF employs homosexuals, serves homosexuals and never has shown bias in action towards them. I don't care what the boss thinks. He is entitled to his or her view and opinion. I think extremists on both ends are turning a nothing into something.


    As a Catholic, I am pretty disgusted with the Catholic church. I went to Catholic school from pre-K through high school and a Jesuit college. I had no choice. I find some of what the church says and teach is pure ridiculous nonsense, and at points hypocritical. People forget this is America...where you can say and believe what is unpopular, and have the right to do so. Conforming is not what the country was built on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    I don't care what anyone does behind closed doors. I care when they flaunt it in public....hetrosexual or homosexual.
    I agree completely. Also add religion to that for me. I don't care what your religious views are either. It's nice you have them, but keep them to yourself and/or your fellow church (or whatever) members.

    I don't care if you're gay or fundamentalist Christian, but please don't throw either in my face.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    I really don't think Christ would be real choked up about all the haters who call themselves Christians. I believe I'm a Christian, which means I try to follow the teachings of Jesus, not homophobics.


    Sorry, I know you were serious and I agreed with everything you wrote.

    But I did kind of crack up when right in the middle of the "Jesus loves everyone and who are we to judge " commentary was the "Now let's go out and smite the Westboro Baptists" picture.

    It's an old argument that even Paul and Peter had (not homosexuality, but old and new testament). Judaism is rule based. Live by their 613 laws, and you will be rewarded. Christianity added love as the fundamental rule for everything. It is a very hard thing to live your life looking at others (anyone) and believing in your heart that they are loved as much as you by God and the fundamental tenant of Christianity is to try and love everyone as God does. There are people that I cannot love because of what they have done and that's my failing and burden.

    That doesn't mean there is no justice, judgements or values. I don't think anyone is going to advocate adultery simply because it's consenting adults. It might not be a crime but it's certainly a tenant of faith. It's a tough question because I think it's obvious that Jesus would minister to prostitutes but not be a prostitute. He would minister to adulterers but not be an adulterer.

    I can see no reason for the government not to accept gay marriage but I can also understand a church not wanting to perform gay weddings but not a christian church that doesn't accept gay members.
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    I just thought the poster was funny. I came across it a month or so ago and saved it, thinking it would come in handy sometime....

    I really don't care what those idiots believe, they can jump up and down in their church all they please. I don't care if they protest outside of gay nightclubs, it's the fact they go after innocent people who have nothing to do with their tainted beliefs that it bothers me. If they want to scream "Thank God for dead soldiers" inside their little hovels, I couldn't care less. But it's a bit much for me when they do it at funerals where homosexuality is completely irrelevant.

    If a church doesn't want to perform gay marriages, that's fine. And realistically, if they don't want to accept gay members, that's their business. But I don't see where they can/should try to force the government to bend to their religious beliefs. If a gay couple want to have a civil ceremony, what does that have to do with anyone else's rights?

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    While I'm not surprised by Chik-Fil-A's homophobic stance/statements, I don't really appreciate them either, even as a heterosexual. I don't have any issue with homosexuality and while everyone has a right to their own opinion, including businesses like Chik-Fil-A, I'd just as soon you kept your opinion to yourself about it. At the end of the day, the sexual activity that two consenting adults engage in is none of your business, and I don't understand how said activity could have any impact on a fried chicken fast food chain, or anything else for that matter!!

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    The Cathys are very good friends of mine and those that are "protesting" them can eat a big bowl of **** and die for all I care. When these sissy *** protesters take their candy asses to someplace like Egypt or Iran where they put you to death for being gay, then I will give them some attention. Till then they can STFU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Norm357 View Post
    The Cathys are very good friends of mine and those that are "protesting" them can eat a big bowl of **** and die for all I care. When these sissy *** protesters take their candy asses to someplace like Egypt or Iran where they put you to death for being gay, then I will give them some attention. Till then they can STFU.
    There was quite a stir some years back, when police groups wanted to boycott Ben & Jerry's over their support for Mumia Abu Jamal.

    The reasoning was that if the owners were going to take the profits from the business and donate it to a cause that the officers so strongly disagreed with, they would simply not give their money to that cause.

    This is exactly the same thing.

    I have no problem with this. People who don't agree with the positions of a company or their ownership have every right not to do business with that company.

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    The CEO of Amazon gave $1.5 million to support gay marriage. Let's see if anyone wants to boycott them.
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    I think it is sad when a thug mayor say he will block them from doing business because Chic-fi-a does not have chicago values( I guess that means murder,crime and corruption) . Chic-fi-a does not ban gays from eating there or bans them from working there. I cant belive it will be legal to stop them becuse of what the owner thoughts are. most people do say that marriage should be between one man and one women. no state in the USA bans gays from getting married as long if they are not the same sex

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    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner5877 View Post
    most people do say that marriage should be between one man and one women.
    Um... Not true. Most Americans favor gay marriage, and the trend in the numbers is clear and will likely continue.

    Quote Originally Posted by roadrunner5877 View Post
    no state in the USA bans gays from getting married as long if they are not the same sex
    Would you make the same argument if states banned interracial marriage (again)? "Black people aren't banned from getting married... they just can't marry WHITE PEOPLE."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citicop View Post
    Um... Not true. Most Americans favor gay marriage, and the trend in the numbers is clear and will likely continue.
    Whoa, whoa, whoa. Back up the language train. Most Americans don't care if gays marry. Personally, as a straight person, I favor heterosexual marriage. I don't see that trend changing any time soon. Prison changes that trend I guess but I don't see prison in my future.

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