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    Rabbi: Obama Breeds Climate of Hate Against Jews

    By: Rabbi Dr. Morton H. Pomerantz



    Our new president did not tell a virulent anti-Semite to travel to the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington to kill Jews, but he is most certainly creating a climate of hate against us.


    It is no coincidence that we are witnessing this level of hatred toward Jews as President Barack Obama positions America against the Jewish state.


    Just days ago Obama traveled to Cairo, Egypt. It was his second trip in a short time to visit Muslim countries. He sent a clear message by not visiting Israel.


    But this was code.


    In Cairo, Obama said things that pose a grave danger to Jews in Israel, in America and everywhere.


    And if his views are not vigorously opposed they will help create a danger as great as that posed by the Nazis to the Jewish people.


    Just last week, Obama told his worldwide audience — more than 100 million people — that the killing of six million Jews during the Holocaust was the equivalent of Israel’s actions in dealing with the Palestinians.


    This remark is incredible on its face, an insult to the six million Jews who died as a result of Hitler’s genocide — and it is a form of revisionism that will bode evil for Jews for years to come.


    While Obama acknowledged that “six million Jews were killed — more than the entire Jewish population of Israel today” — his discussion about the Holocaust was followed by this statement: “On the other hand, it is also undeniable that the Palestinian people — Muslims and Christians — have suffered in pursuit of a homeland.”


    “On the other hand . . . ”?


    Obama’s clever construct comparing the mass genocide of six million Jews to the Palestinian struggle will not be lost on the estimated 100 million Muslims who tuned into to hear him.


    Perhaps it was not lost on James W. von Brunn, the 88-year-old white supremacist identified as the alleged attacker Wednesday at the Holocaust Museum. He apparently felt that he could easily take retribution against the Jews for the atrocities Obama implies they are guilty of.


    At first blush Mr. Obama’s speech seemed rosy, optimistic — one that espoused tolerance and understanding.


    If you scratch the surface it is a dangerous document that history will view as a turning point for America and Israel — one that will lead to dangerous times ahead for both Jews and believing Christians.


    The immediate danger posed by Obama’s speech is in its incredible re-writing of the history of Jews, Christians and Muslims from Medieval times to the present.


    Obama, continually throughout his speech, talks of Islam’s peaceful intent. And while there are certainly Koranic verses that support this interpretation, Islam has a long and bloody history of violence against fellow Muslims, Jews and Christians.


    Has Obama not heard about the Muslim’s violent conquest of the Middle East, Spain and half of Western Europe? Was he never taught that the Crusades sought to turn back this Muslim onslaught that demanded subjugated populations convert or die?


    In his almost hour-long speech, there is not a single word about Islam’s well known and checkered past.


    Ironically, the American president offered plenty of references to what he sees are America’s evils, such as its “colonialism” and history of slavery.


    “For centuries, black people in America suffered the lash of the whip as slaves and the humiliation of segregation,” Obama told his audience, citing a litany of American shortcomings. He failed to mention that Arab Muslims were the greatest slave traders in the history of humanity.


    According to Obama, Israelis, too, are guilty of wrongdoing, especially when it comes to their supposed maltreatment of the Palestinians.


    Isn’t it odd an American president would go to a foreign country and slander his own country and its long-time ally?


    At the same time he praises — unconditionally — a religion and culture that has a long history of being antithetical to the very values that have made America a great nation?


    Mr. Obama even has the unbelievable gall, when talking about the treatment of Muslim women, to condemn Western countries for attempting to stop Muslim women from using the full facial cover, or hijab. This is a symbol of Muslim subjugation of women.


    Listen to what Obama said: “Likewise, it is important for Western countries to avoid impeding Muslim citizens from practicing religion as they see fit - for instance, by dictating what clothes a Muslim woman should wear.”


    And Obama not only ignores the gross subjugation of women in many Arab societies — he does not mention even once the almost total religious intolerance throughout the Muslim world against Christians and Jews.


    In his speech, Obama’s only plea for Muslim women living in Muslim countries is that they should be afforded an education.


    How about a discussion of the beheading of Arab women for “crimes” such as adultery? How about the malicious treatment of women in Muslim countries who choose not to wear the hijab?


    Obama insists that Islam has promoted tolerance and that in Islamic societies such ideals have flourished.


    Obama claimed that “as a student of history” he understands more than most the truth about “civilization's debt to Islam.”


    He added, “And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”


    Does he not know that a Jew or Christian would be beheaded in Saudi Arabia for practicing their religion today, now, this minute?


    Of course, Obama offers not one example of where religious freedom is truly tolerated in the Muslim world. Yet, he proudly told his audience that in every state of the union and throughout the U.S. there exist more than 1,200 mosques.


    But why, Mr. President, is there no Christian Church or Jewish synagogue operating within the borders of Saudi Arabia? Not even one.


    Why in many countries, including your host Egypt, Christian churches have suffered vicious and continual persecution? Why is a once vibrant Cairo Jewish community — a home for the likes of Maimonides — today practically extinct?


    Why, dear president, has the ancient Christian community in the West Bank and places like Bethlehem been almost completely wiped out by the modern Muslim onslaught?


    “On the other hand,” to quote you Mr. President, you avoided mentioning some other truths.


    Let’s start with the Israeli Arabs who can claim one of the highest standards of living in the Arab world. Indeed, they have more rights than Arabs in any Muslim country, their religious freedom is completely protected, and they even vote in free elections.


    Tell me what Muslim country matches Israel’s record in protecting its minorities?


    Even Arabs in the West Bank, during the time of Israeli control, saw their standard of living rise dramatically. Today, Arabs there are among the best educated in the world, thanks to Israel.


    In your revisionist view, Israel has acted to harm these people. But it was not Israel that could not abide by United Nations resolutions clearly setting borders for both the state of Israel and an entity that had never existed before named Palestine.


    You cleverly omitted any discussion of these facts, or the continual attacks against the state of Israel over six decades by its Muslim neighbors. Nor is it the Israelis who persecute from time to time the Coptic Christians of Egypt.


    No, Mr. President, I do not accept your assertion that you are seeking religious tolerance or that you are seeking to protect Jews. I do not accept it because you are inventing a false history to fit your own agenda.


    Mr. President, I am deeply disturbed that you would offer such a distortion of truth in the hopes of creating a lasting peace. A lasting peace cannot be created out of lies, distortions and half truths.


    You profess to be a Christian. But you seem more intent on protecting Muslims. In your speech you talked openly of your Muslim heritage, your admiration of their way of life, and so forth. You said in your speech that you have made one of your chief aims of your presidency repairing the image of Islam.


    Why did you hide these views from the American public during the recent presidential campaign?


    Why, as president, did you fully bow to the Saudi king, who refuses to allow any religious freedom for any Christian or Jew?


    You have made clear, by your words and assertions, that you are re-positioning the United States away from Israel, America’s lone democratic ally in the Mid-East.


    You have made clear through your statements and those of your minions that Israel should, under no circumstances, prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons.


    And yes, you have promised to retaliate against Iran if it ever attacks Israel with nuclear weapons.


    But you know full well that if Iran succeeds in its admitted goal of “wiping the Jewish state off the map” — and hits this tiny nation with nuclear warheads — there will be no Israel for the U.S. to retaliate on behalf of.


    Some Jews may be naïve, but we are not stupid.


    Rabbi Dr. Morton H. Pomerantz is a member of the Reform movement of Judaism and serves as a chaplain for the State of New York. A former Navy and Marine Corps officer and chaplain, he has also served as deputy national chaplain for the Jewish War Veterans of the United States.
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    So did obama mean that the Nazi committing genocide is the same as the Jewish people protecting their country?

    I wonder what he would say about us if we tried to protect our country when the terrorists come here.
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    Imagine if he was President when 9/11 happened.


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    I wonder why Obama wouldn't like Jewish people. Maybe is has something to do with the church where he attended for 20 years:



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevySSP View Post


    Call me nuts but I'm starting to miss Bush...
    I've missed Bush since the day he got elected.

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    Over the past 200 years one thing has stood for freedom and liberty above all else. One thing has brought freedom to more people than anything else. America.

    Apologize to your enemies, alienate your allies. Obama does not get it. I refuse to believe that the man could possible be so stupid. That only leaves one option.

    I hope there is a free America left in 2012.

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    Because all evidence suggests that this man is, at a minimum, politically astute. Astute enough to position himself in, what, 4 years to go from senator elect to President of the United States?

    No - I refuse to believe that this is a case of "he just doesn't get it". He gets it - that's why his wife didn't go with him to Egypt. He knows what he's doing.

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    Uncle Obie is the best

    Obama is the best President we have had in our lifetimes. The man walks, yes he walks,,, on water.

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    Quote Originally Posted by White Minor Ity View Post
    Obama is the best President we have had in our lifetimes. The man walks, yes he walks,,, on water.

    WTF???? Uncle Obie?

    On behalf of all things True, I move that White Minor Ity, be banned by the Gods of RP.

    All in favor say "aye".
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamTomFrank View Post
    WTF???? Uncle Obie?

    On behalf of all things True, I move that White Minor Ity, be banned by the Gods of RP.

    All in favor say "aye".
    Why?
    Just because he goes with a different view than yours? I don't think that's a banning offense.
    I took his comment more sarcastically than literally. I could be wrong though, he may just be a troll.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamTomFrank View Post
    WTF???? Uncle Obie?

    On behalf of all things True, I move that White Minor Ity, be banned by the Gods of RP.

    All in favor say "aye".

    Considering he has one post, it's obvious he isn't serious and is probably trolling - but if he wasn't why ban him if that's what he really thinks? I wouldn't ban you for others views here which I think are border line insane here sometimes. A political environment without the worry of being banned ( or worse :p ) for what you think is a very good thing.

    Then again, you were probably joking around too. Obama has been to Israel plenty of times before. Does he need to stop every time he goes to another nation around it?
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    Well said, people need to read between the lines....this President is very shady in his speeches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by starsky53 View Post
    Well said, people need to read between the lines....this President is very shady in his speeches.
    I disagree.

    He has said exactly what he believes both prior to and during his campaigns about turning our nation into a Socialist nation. He learned it from his father, his Weather Underground and Black Panther mentors, and God knows where else, because he won't unseal his College information or how he was able to afford college. He wrote in his book that he tried to hang out with Marxists and avoided anything white related.

    White guilt got this guy elected to Office, and those people paid no attention to the content of his speeches, only that he was a good Orator in the vein of his last Mentor, Jeremiah Wright.

    He said in one of his debates that we should watch who he surrounds himself with as Advisors. His advising "Czar's" are quite scary people, and they aren't being required to be approved by Congress, because they don't answer to anyone except Obama.
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    the sad part here is Obama is speaking about the Muslim world as it would exist if the 95% of peaceful muslims were in charge, he praises the Muslim world for the ideologies that it can no longer practice because people of absolute peace will always be subjigated by those who seek war. (See:
    "those who beat their guns into plowshares will plow fields for those who did not").


    Obama is taking a VERY French stand on this issue, France continually appoligizes to the Muslim world for everything and anything it can think to apologize for and the muslim world continues to bomb france on a regular basis. France never retaliates. don't ask me why but, french foreign policy to me has always been a picture in my head of an oversexed french guy in a dark room trying to f--ck an anrgy badger by convincing it he 'want's to make love' ('ere badger, badger badger). firstly it's an angry badger, secondly it doesn't understand you.

    It doesn't matter how great the ideologies are of a vast majority of very good people who are Muslim, because those peaceful muslims will always agree more with the violent musliums (who clearly want war) way more often than they will with good people from other religions who WANT peace. look how quickly Hamas, the mujahadeen and Al'qaeda took over cheznia when they decided to make it a focal point. i fail to understand why one would isolate and alienate long standing friends who have fought and bled with you to make friends with someone who at a moments notice can be convinced (by force but convinced the same) that you are the devil and should be resisted and killed at ANY cost.

    i don't get it, and it's frustrating as hell that it appears Obama thinks that these people can ever be convinced to be our friends without a Major Military action like that being carried out (on a small scale) by Israel to remove hardline war mongers from the muslims who wish for the peace and friendship that the Koran speaks of when you take it in context.
    as an aside most of the passages taken out of context for the Jihadists are in reference to what you do to people that are invading your land and enslaving you. those same passages are very shorly followed with words speaking of the forgiveness of Allah and that there should be no retaliation once the invaders have left. the true definition of an infidel many muslim scholars argue is a person who has been shown the way of allah and given a set ammount of time to decide, who then decides against Allah. i could have missed a few contextual points here but the vast majority of the Muslim religion is not like these Jihadists, they don't want to be like these Jihadists, they are just forced to submit to the rule of them.

    i fail to understand why our president can't look at france as an example of how well his current policies will work, and it's sad but if we keep this up more 9/11's will come, and i hope to God it only takes the first one (and it's a small first one) for people to realize that consessions and apologies will get us no where with these people, but those concessions and apoligies will make our allies less likley to come to our aid when we need them.

    Sigh damn, this is all going down hill so fast, couldn't he have waited until at least halfway through his presidency to start f--king things up so at least we could minimize his dammage by voting him out of office asap?

    although i do beleive the author is blowing out of proportion the usage of the words "on the other hand" because it's a proper usage, the homeland issue was something that came as part of the aftermath of WWII, (so on the other hand is good wording) he was speaking to a mostly Muslim audience about an event that happened before their time, and how it has effected and continues to affect their lives today. he has speech writers and should have been smarter than to mimimze the death of 6,000,000 people to empathize with another countries displeasure at loosing what is to them a very important chunk of land...
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