While Im on the subject- I stink at prone handcuffing. Standing and kneeling Im ok, but for some reason I stink at hand position and cuff placement when it comes to prone handcuffing. Any tips or things you do to simplify it ?
While Im on the subject- I stink at prone handcuffing. Standing and kneeling Im ok, but for some reason I stink at hand position and cuff placement when it comes to prone handcuffing. Any tips or things you do to simplify it ?
Get with your department instructor or academy instructor.
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grab the hands and pull, they'll come to where you pull...eventually :D
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:eek: Dang Chewy.......... LMAO!Originally Posted by chewy
A "tip" if you can't get w/ your DT Instructor.........
While you are kneeling on the suspects back (not the head or neck) and you are angled toward his/her feet with his "controlled" arm between your legs.......
Place the first cuff on the arm you have controlled (don't crank it down though). Rotate your hand position (the hand on the cuff to where your palm is up with the second cuff loaded.
Reach with your arm closest to the suspects feet and grab OVER the thumb controlling his/her hand and bring the two together. It is kinda hard to describe w/o pics but when done right you can get some pretty big boys in regular cuffs w/o generating too much of a stink.
Hope it helps.
Kip
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Originally Posted by DT4EMS
Hehehehehe :p
All joking aside TaylorMade18 you really need to use a little caution and make sure you sweep the arm back and not just pull because when you are pulling on the wrist area there is a lot of leverage against the shoulder and it is real easy to pop the shoulder out of joint if you just pull on it. Practice is the best thing I can suggest. If you practice over and over in different prone positions you will see how the arm naturally swings and it will become second nature on your part to let the arm swing the way it's ment to. Practice practice practice practice....nothing can beat practice!
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Originally Posted by chewy
^^^^ Yeah!! :D
but this is what worked for me. (This is when you have someone who is complying...for the time being)
When they are prone, have them put both hands behind them, on the small of their backs (this way they cannot push off the ground with their hands). Kneel on their backs with your left knee (if right handed) and grab as many of their fingers as you can with your left hand. Don't kneel with your right knee, in case you have to stand quickly and draw down. Keep the balls of your right foot planted on the ground, allowing you to push off. Try to get the backs of their hands (knuckles) against eachother so both palms are facing out. This way, if they decide to get stupid, a quick lift straight up to their shoulders will offer them a plan of reconsideration.
From here on in it should be your usual way of cuffing. Works with what is comfortable for you, but don't sacrifice your (or your Brothers) safety.
Remeber....keep your perp UNCOMFORTABLE....that will keep them off balanced and hard to move on you!
-In God we trust. All others, put your hands on the car and don't move.
Yea, we train in the CG for this specificaly because of how easy it is to screw someones shoulder up. What we do is whil we have the contrled arm between our knees we take the other arms and slide it up passed the perps head and then bring it to the cuff. It actually rotates the socket so it can be pulled back without damage.Originally Posted by chewy
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