Retired Philadelphia police captain Ray Lewis arrested at OWS in uniform

[Norm357]

So no one else thinks him getting hit by a bus is a good idea?

[Joeyd6]

A little something I just found out working teh midnight shift......he is a NY State resident...was a Philly PD...retried captain. Philly guys had issues with him on the job.

Since he is a NYS resident and in NYS with his crime, and allegedly carrying at the time, it won't be too hard for him to loses his carry privliges with a conviction.

[MikeG]

A little something I just found out working teh midnight shift......he is a NY State resident...was a Philly PD...retried captain. Philly guys had issues with him on the job.

Since he is a NYS resident and in NYS with his crime, and allegedly carrying at the time, it won't be too hard for him to loses his carry privliges with a conviction.

Does Pennsylvania revoke pensions with a felony conviction?

[retdetsgt]

Does Pennsylvania revoke pensions with a felony conviction?

I would doubt it. We have a clause if someone is on disability, but you earn your pension for years of service. Even O. J.'s NFL pension was protected when he was sued by Nicole's family.

[mcsap]

I think that the pension could be yanked but only if he did the offense while he was still an employee of the dept. I would suspect they have revoked his permission to wear his uniform anymore though.

[retdetsgt]

We never have permission to wear our uniform after we retire.

If you work here for 5 years, you're vested in the pension system and will receive something. But you have to wait until you're 55 to start collecting it if you quit or are fired. At five years, it's not gong to be much though.

[mcsap]

So no one else thinks him getting hit by a bus is a good idea?

I was thinking more of a Mack 4 axle 73,280 lb dump truck loaded with stone.

[MikeG]

I would doubt it. We have a clause if someone is on disability, but you earn your pension for years of service. Even O. J.'s NFL pension was protected when he was sued by Nicole's family.

There were some states that would 'lump sum' the offender out of the public pension system when they were convicted of a felony. Arizona was considering it. I thought ether New York or another state back east already had it.

[Cat_Doc]

Mike,

I could be mistaken, but the only way to lump sum them out of PSRS, that has already retired, is if you can prove they committed a felony prior to retirement.

[MikeG]

Mike,

I could be mistaken, but the only way to lump sum them out of PSRS, that has already retired, is if you can prove they committed a felony prior to retirement.

I didn't even know there was a way to do that. I thought they were looking at changes but didn't actually do anything. It wasn't just police pensions as they are small component of public employees convicted of felonies. Actually, the last time it came up was a former elected official convicted of felony in your neck of the woods that had a huge pension but wasn't paying some court ordered support/restitution because pensions weren't used in the calculation. Judge cleared that up for him. The question remained why he received a pension in the first place.

On edit: It looks like this was part of the pension changes last year. Certain felonies committed while in office (or actions that led to dismissal) will trigger a 'lump sum' return and removal from system.

[Cat_Doc]

Actually, the last time it came up was a former elected official convicted of felony in your neck of the woods that had a huge pension but wasn't paying some court ordered support/restitution because pensions weren't used in the calculation. Judge cleared that up for him. The question remained why he received a pension in the first place.

On edit: It looks like this was part of the pension changes last year. Certain felonies committed while in office (or actions that led to dismissal) will trigger a 'lump sum' return and removal from system.

That ******* was not elected, he was an appointed County Manager. His actions sure put a black eye on our county reputation that will take several years to recover from. That puke tarnished all of those who are honest, hard working public employees.