FlashLights

[JeffW]

You might want to take a look at the Wolf-Eyes brand. Very solid light on the same quality as SF.

[Taxx]

Had it, tested it, and sent it back. It is 12" long. Too long for concealed carry and too much for a duty rig for permanent carry. Damage when a car drove over it! It is brighter than a Surefire 6P LED. But it does not comapre to a Surefire 6P with a Malkoff drop in head.

5.11 Light:

• 90 lums for 60 minutes
• 270 lums for 15 minute
• weighs ONE POUND
• 1 foot long
• Has 3 emitters (bulbs)
• Broke when car driven over it.
• When shined against a wall about 8' away, center is black hole due to the 3 LEDs.
• Requires a charger and a car!
• If you want a wall charger, it is extra.
• What do you do on a rooftop of a building after 15 minutes are up?

Surefire with Malkoff:

• 235 lums for 90 minutes
• Weighs 5.3 ounces
• 5.20" long
• Has 1 emitter (bulb)
• Survived fine with a car driven over it!
• When shined against a wall about 8' away, center is white.
• Requires no charger and no car!
• Uses 2 CR123 batteries
• After 15 minutes on a roof, you still have 75 minutes of 235 lums. And if you need more, you take out the two spare batteries you keep in yoru glove pouch, and change the batteries.

Not a bad idea as a mag light, but not for tactical duty use.

Nice, I do carry 3 flashlights now, Ultrastinger, stinger xp and my 6p (no add-ons). I don't carry my main light on my belt (or ring), I carry it in a side pocket. I go through a lot of bulbs on the Ultra, the xp isn't bright enough unless for close searches and the 6p you have to mess with batteries. I guess it's all about what works for you. Good point about the 3 emitters on the 5.11.

[basher52]

I am looking for a small but bright flashlight to use on everyday patrol , traffic stops and what not

i keep hearing surefire is a good brand and a friend also mentioned Pelican LED 7060

my question is what is the best light for patrol that i can keep on my gun belt at all times -

would like to be able to see through tints(if possible) to make traffic stops a bit safer ,etc...

thanks for all input in advance

Rudy,

If you decide on Surefire call them directly and order from them. Ask for LE sales and tell them what you want and that your OTJ. They may ask for your shield number (they say badge). You will recive a 15-20% discount

[Creeker]

Sorry I'm so ignorant, but what is a 6p/7p? Is that a quality or a part number?

[greenlead]

Sorry I'm so ignorant, but what is a 6p/7p? Is that a quality or a part number?

The Surefire 6P is a two cell, 6 volt, metal body flashlight, similar to the G2. It uses the P60 or P61 lamp.

[basher52]

The Surefire 6P is a two cell, 6 volt, metal body flashlight, similar to the G2. It uses the P60 or P61 lamp.

The newer 6L beats it (6P) by a mile. The new 6L, LED version puts out 85 Lumens, compared to the Xeon Bulb version at 65 Lumens. The "L" has a longer run time also.

For those who have a 6P and want to upgrade, you can order just the 6L replacement head.

[Creeker]

The Surefire 6P is a two cell, 6 volt, metal body flashlight, similar to the G2. It uses the P60 or P61 lamp.

OK, so they are Model numbers, I suppose. Thank You.

[Joeyd6]

The newer 6L beats it (6P) by a mile. The new 6L, LED version puts out 85 Lumens, compared to the Xeon Bulb version at 65 Lumens. The "L" has a longer run time also.

For those who have a 6P and want to upgrade, you can order just the 6L replacement head.

Not worth the money when for $55 you get a Malkoff head with 235 lums for an hour and a half!!!

[greenlead]

The newer 6L beats it (6P) by a mile. The new 6L, LED version puts out 85 Lumens, compared to the Xeon Bulb version at 65 Lumens. The "L" has a longer run time also.

For those who have a 6P and want to upgrade, you can order just the 6L replacement head.

That is correct, I was just trying to keep it simple. The P60L and P61L lamps are drop-in LED replacements for the incandescent lamps. (The P90L and P91L lamps are for the 3-cell lights).

[Bowser]

There is a LE store located in Clackamas, OR who deal with Stream Light, Pelican and Sure Fire. They even have LE prices.. Extreme-Products.net

I would recommend the Streamlight LED stinger. The new technology is the C4 lamps which doubles the original lumens. Give them a shot and they can help you. The store is actually owned by a local Police Officer, so he knows what will work for you.

[TXCharlie]

Not worth the money when for $55 you get a Malkoff head with 235 lums for an hour and a half!!!

From what I can see, the Malkoff head uses the Seoul P4 LED, but Seoul's P7 LED is basically four P4 led's in one package, so it's brighter (I'm talking about the LED component itself, not the flashlight part number).

See: http://www.seoulsemicon.com/en/prCen...iew.asp?seq=45

The specs on the P7 LED go up to about 900 Lumens, but of course there's loss in the reflector, lens, etc - plus a small flashlight doesn't necessarily push the P7 to full power because of the heat problem (dissipates about 11 watts, enough to get very hot), and the fact that it needs almost 3 amps to get to full brightness, reducing battery life.

Still, the P7 led is something to watch for in the newer flashlights... That no-name tac light I bought for $50 with the P7 is super bright (even though it's not driven anywhere close to 900 lumens) and still works, but I can tell that the switch is cheaply made. I doubt that it would survive a car running over it, or being dropped on concrete either, but I'm sure that good quality brands will eventually come out with P7 led's.