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    I would go with the hinged, better control even though they are a little more expensive.

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    Hinged aren't allowed on my Department. While they do give better control (slightly due to arrestees hands being closer together) they are a ***** to get on if your in a good old fashioned "Donnybrook" (fight) with the suspect. I carried a pair on my last PD and they DID come in handy, HOWEVER I maybe cuffed one or two people a year their (usually compliant). The current environment I work in is slightly different! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by greg72982 View Post
    In my experience hinged cuffs restrict movement a little more than chain cuffs and tend to be a little larger so they are easier used on individuals with larger wrists...Due to the restricted movement they can also be more painful according to my customers...

    I used hinged primarily...
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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    Hinged aren't allowed on my Department. While they do give better control (slightly due to arrestees hands being closer together) they are a ***** to get on if your in a good old fashioned "Donnybrook" (fight) with the suspect. I carried a pair on my last PD and they DID come in handy, HOWEVER I maybe cuffed one or two people a year their (usually compliant). The current environment I work in is slightly different! :D

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    I never had a problem with cuffs being hinged during a fight. In fact I find there is greater leverage and torque with them. Much easier to control. The chained cuffs are always facing the wrong direction or get twisted around and are tough to control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valor55 View Post
    I never had a problem with cuffs being hinged during a fight. In fact I find there is greater leverage and torque with them. Much easier to control. The chained cuffs are always facing the wrong direction or get twisted around and are tough to control.
    We just train to get the cuffs on....no wrong way as far as keyholes are concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    We just train to get the cuffs on....no wrong way as far as keyholes are concerned.
    The only time that I ever really sweated the keyholes was when I was screwing around or cleaning/lubricating them and put them onto the same arm... :eek:... and it wasn't necessarily my own arm...
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    Chain cuffs are much more susceptible to being picked, especially if the key holes are down. Hinged cuffs with the key hole up I would say are extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    ...hinged can also be a bit more difficult putting on a very resistant "customer".
    That just means you have to be a bit more "persuasive." ;)




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    My first dept issued hinged.

    Now it is chained.

    I miss hinged!

    I nver had any more trouble getting hinged on than chain, but once on they were much more effective when hinged. In a fight, if you can get one hinged on, you can twist it (slightly) to apply pain compliance a lot easier than with chain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie George View Post
    My first dept issued hinged.

    Now it is chained.

    I miss hinged!

    I nver had any more trouble getting hinged on than chain, but once on they were much more effective when hinged. In a fight, if you can get one hinged on, you can twist it (slightly) to apply pain compliance a lot easier than with chain.
    Exact thing happened to me. I broke down and bought my own hinged. I keep the department issued chains with me for compliant cuffing involving small wristed women etc. But 90% of the time I use the hinged cuffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valor55 View Post
    Chain cuffs are much more susceptible to being picked, especially if the key holes are down. Hinged cuffs with the key hole up I would say are extraordinarily difficult, if not impossible, to pick.
    True but only if they're not double-locked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    True but only if they're not double-locked.
    Nope, there's videos of a guy picking double locked cuffs. If you miss something like a paper clip or hair pin in your search they'll get chained cuffs off like nothing.
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    Hinged. I'd also like to put in a vote for the oversized one's. Everybody is a porker these days. :eek:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valor55 View Post
    Nope, there's videos of a guy picking double locked cuffs. If you miss something like a paper clip or hair pin in your search they'll get chained cuffs off like nothing.
    Hmmmm....I've seen single locked shimmed before but not double-locked. I'll have to seek out that video. Thanks for the Heads-up....but hinged still aren't allowed by my PD! :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by stewie View Post
    Hmmmm....I've seen single locked shimmed before but not double-locked. I'll have to seek out that video. Thanks for the Heads-up....but hinged still aren't allowed by my PD! :D
    Technically they aren't allowed at mine either. :cool:
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