same deal as the previous two, except I've only been carrying it for 2 years and for a G23. I'm getting one of the updated versions with the M6 light in a month or two. For police type work, it is great and is nearly indestructable and thus willnot damage your weapon, however, when crawling around in dirt and mud, not have a flap over the grip is a real hinderance, and can really gunk up the weapon, so I wouldn't recommed it for military use. I'd still use a drop leg style, but I'd have to get one with a flap over it.
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