Police Defense Techniques - Not good enough.

[not5150]

But wait... the name of the place is "Lynxx Academy of Martial Arts"

So is it CQB or Martial Arts?

w1zard do you go to this academy? Have you been to a Police/Sheriff's academy, so you can compare the two?

Your posts sound like a commercial and I'm wondering if you have a vested interest in the place.

[w1zard]

For god sake IM NOT FREAKEN TALKING ABOUT BLACK BELTS AND ALL THAT **** ANYMORE I JUST MENSIONED IT ONCE! IM TALKING ABOUT CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT and how it overpowers martial arts.

And to answer your question about what seals learn, that guy at the LINXX Academy can answer your question on that, he even explains there CQC system on one of there videos.

Back to the martial artists. Your right, martial artists do get there asses handed to them on the street because people don't attack you how they do in the bruce lee movies I'v studied how people fight, how they attack, how they hit. I'v done ton's of research on all fighting techniques, and it all comes down to Russian fighting styles or CQC (NOT MARTIAL ARTS!!!!). By the way txinvestigator, you don't need to agree with me on this man, but it's something to think about, LEO's should be taught CQC.

[w1zard]

"LINXX ACADEMY OF MARTIAL ARTS" is just the name of the place where the guy teaches it. And no, I have no ties witht he company, im just giving it as an example of what police officers should be learning.

[Cat_Doc]

In law enforcement? None. (field im going into)

Martial Arts? 5 years.

Oh, okay.

Let me be so bold as to provide you with a smidgen of a "heads up", specifically concerning your statement about we (police) need to learn how to handle a "perp" by ourselves instead of having four cops jump in to help.

One cop on one bad guy = bad guy almost always getting hurt bad with trip to E.R.

Four cops on one bad guy = bad guy gets put to ground, cuffed and walks into court the next day on his own two feet.

Not a damn thing wrong with "swarming" and overpowering the guy.

Real cops understand this.....those who have not tried to handcuff a combative subject by themselves, do not.

Plus, there is no such thing as a "fair fight" when it comes to police work.

The cops are not there to have a fair fight, they are there to take you into custody and make you the property of the state until released by a judge.

Oh yeah, one other thing, I took Kempo for quite a few years. It don't work the same way on the street as it does in the Dojo with all the fancy katas. Get's you into some pretty damn good shape, though, that's for sure.

I agree with the judo concept more, as most of our work is trying to immobilize and control the suspect instead of breaking his orbital socket with a hard strike to the face or knife-edge to the front of the throat.

Now, when I was in the military, there were techniques taught that reportedly would kill your adversary, but you better be in the correct circumstances before you use it.

[Cat_Doc]

For god sake IM NOT FREAKEN TALKING ABOUT BLACK BELTS AND ALL THAT **** ANYMORE I JUST MENSIONED IT ONCE!

Rut Roh!

Wiz, you should consider putting that attitude in reverse gear.

[w1zard]

Oh, okay.

Let me be so bold as to provide you with a smidgen of a "heads up", specifically concerning your statement about we (police) need to learn how to handle a "perp" by ourselves instead of having four cops jump in to help.

One cop on one bad guy = bad guy almost always getting hurt bad with trip to E.R.

Four cops on one bad guy = bad guy gets put to ground, cuffed and walks into court the next day on his own two feet.

Not a damn thing wrong with "swarming" and overpowering the guy.

Real cops understand this.....those who have not tried to handcuff a combative subject by themselves, do not.

Plus, there is no such thing as a "fair fight" when it comes to police work.

The cops are not there to have a fair fight, they are there to take you into custody and make you the property of the state until released by a judge.

Oh yeah, one other thing, I took Kempo for quite a few years. It don't work the same way on the street as it does in the Dojo with all the fancy katas. Get's you into some pretty damn good shape, though, that's for sure.

I agree with the judo concept more, as most of our work is trying to immobilize and control the suspect instead of breaking his orbital socket with a hard strike to the face or knife-edge to the front of the throat.

Now, when I was in the military, there were techniques taught that reportedly would kill your adversary, but you better be in the correct circumstances before you use it.

Yes agreed. Also yes, Judo is an effective fighting style for Law Enforcement because its a type of grappling style, CQC teaches all the control techniques while standing, ground top, ground bottom, knives. Basically just takes Judo 5x further.

I was in martial arts for 5 years until I finally realized how lame it actually really was, and how ineffective it actually is in todays society.

[w1zard]

Rut Roh!

Wiz, you should consider putting that attitude in reverse gear.

Yeh, im getting aggitated because people think im actually defending the Belt ranking crap and defending martial arts or something when I am actually doing just the apposite.

[txinvestigator1]

For god sake IM NOT FREAKEN TALKING ABOUT BLACK BELTS AND ALL THAT **** ANYMORE I JUST MENSIONED IT ONCE! IM TALKING ABOUT CLOSE QUARTERS COMBAT and how it overpowers martial arts.

And to answer your question about what seals learn, that guy at the LINXX Academy can answer your question on that, he even explains there CQC system on one of there videos.

Back to the martial artists. Your right, martial artists do get there asses handed to them on the street because people don't attack you how they do in the bruce lee movies I'v studied how people fight, how they attack, how they hit. I'v done ton's of research on all fighting techniques, and it all comes down to Russian fighting styles or CQC (NOT MARTIAL ARTS!!!!). By the way txinvestigator, you don't need to agree with me on this man, but it's something to think about, LEO's should be taught CQC.

How old are you? Russian FIghting? I guess Tito Ortoz and The Gracies better hope those Ruskies never get in MMA or UFC.

As far as CQC being better than MA....its all relative. Before I got into Krav Maga I sparred a Krav dude. I nearly knocked him out. However, I had another guy put me down so fast I had no idea from where he came. lol

ITS relative!

And I don't need to ask the claimed SEAL squat. I personally know a former, and I am on a board with a current one. WOW, I guess that means I must know a lot about SEALs.....NOT.

[txinvestigator1]

Yes agreed. Also yes, Judo is an effective fighting style for Law Enforcement because its a type of grappling style, CQC teaches all the control techniques while standing, ground top, ground bottom, knives. Basically just takes Judo 5x further.

I was in martial arts for 5 years until I finally realized how lame it actually really was, and how ineffective it actually is in todays society.

I would love to meet the salesman that got ahold of you. He is good.

Click here for the best MA

[txinvestigator1]

this about sums it up

I like this too

[ngcsubutterbar]

holy crap! whata cute picture!!!!!!






bah, nevermind the rest: most of it's been covered. Simply refer to it as a force continium paradox.

[S43riff]

For god sake IM NOT FREAKEN TALKING ABOUT BLACK BELTS AND ALL THAT **** ANYMORE I JUST MENSIONED IT ONCE! .

I am a LEO and have been in martial arts for 32 years,,,18 as an instructor. (5th in Tae Kwon-do, 3rd in Aiki-do)...and you have to start somewhere to be a black belt. We are SHOWN the basics in the academy. It is recommended that you follow up on your own to LEARN the basics and go from there. I have used more simple foot sweeps and basic takedowns on the street then anything else. We are not encouraged to take a classic fighting stance and fight it out like a challenge.

[Johninaustin]

Navy Seal. :rolleyes: I agree. One hell of a salesman.

[KittyMom]

Tx is quite right. I've observed a lot of his "best MA" very closely and it's quite terrifying and effective. :D

[Samuel]

In law enforcement? None. (field im going into)
Martial Arts? 5 years.

ONLY 5 years and you already know it all huh? :rolleyes:

If you bring that same ignorant attitude with you into LE, IF you get in at all, you're gonna get yourself or one or more of your partners Hurt or Killed.

You need to get out, experience more, learn more, and open up that narrow mind of yours.

"A Martial Art can be defined as a system of techniques, physical and mental exercises developed as an effective means for self-defense and offense, both unarmed and with the use of weapons."

Hey "Buddy", that definition INCLUDES such areas/subjects as firearms training, edged weapons training, AND CQC training, among many others. Where do you think those instructors learned the techniques they use and teach for CQC???

So here's a hint: when you talk about CQC and MA being different entities, you're really showing your ignorance.


Btw, all that nitpicking aside, I DO agree with you that LEOs should have Better and More training...