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    Civilian police PT Vs, Army MP PT

    hi, i was wondering what the difference in PT is between civilian and military. through out my army career my whole 2 and a half years. but i have always phase fived my apft test. i can run a 2 mile in 13:21 and do 74 push ups and 81 sit up in two minutes. would these scores hold up to a police academy. i also wanted to ask about marksmanship through out training i qualified "top gun" with the m4a1 shooting 40 out of 40 and i also qualified "top gun" with the m9 (9mm) shooting 50 out of 50. would these numbers help during in process into an academy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USarmyMP View Post
    i can run a 2 mile in 13:21 and do 74 push ups and 81 sit up in two minutes. would these scores hold up to a police academy.
    I've been through a few police academies, and in each the PT scores above would you doing just fine. Some may be more intense (particularly state trooper academies), but as an average you'd do well with those scores (though each academy I've gone through had 1.5 mile runs, and push ups/sit ups in 1 minute sets).

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    i also wanted to ask about marksmanship through out training i qualified "top gun" with the m4a1 shooting 40 out of 40 and i also qualified "top gun" with the m9 (9mm) shooting 50 out of 50. would these numbers help during in process into an academy?
    It won't exempt you from police academy training, but if you can shoot well it only helps. Just remember you may have to do things the academies way, which may be different from how you were taught in the Army. Just do it, don't b!tch or complain, and then do it your way when you're out of the academy. Worst thing you can do is have a chip on your shoulder while a trainee (not saying you would, but I've seen several in my classes do so).
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    i hope those scores hold up for another year, i'm sure they will with an upcoming deployment. i didnt think that being able to fire a weapon would be a make or break decision with the academy because as LEO military and civilan. throughout my training i have been told that when we have to draq our side arm we have lost control of the situation and that is all officers nightmare. in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by USarmyMP View Post
    i didnt think that being able to fire a weapon would be a make or break decision with the academy because as LEO military and civilan. throughout my training i have been told that when we have to draq our side arm we have lost control of the situation and that is all officers nightmare. in my opinion
    That's completely not true. There are plenty of instances out here where drawing your weapon is NOT any indication of failure to control the situation.
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    I went through the Army MP School when it used to be at Ft. McClellan. It is what I would consider to be a 'taste' of law enforcement. The civilian academies are much more thorough and involved. Remember, in the Civy world you can be sued and fired for actions and in the military you mainly have to worry about the UCMJ.

    With what you are describing, you will not have a problem with the Physical and Shooting side of things. The best advice I can give is to not act like you have 'been there and done that'. You should have more molding as a leader through the service - lean on that. Consider what it is like to have a butter bar come in fresh from OCS and start lording around the unit. Don't be that guy when you get out!

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