The word for today is sledgehammer....

[kels]

A one size fits all front door key.
We went visiting and made two new friends

However, I do hate 6 am search warrants.
I do my best sleeping then.
And obviously so did the dopers this morning

[Cat_Doc]

Yep, I have fond memories of hitting the castles at 0600.

Sun just coming up, brightening and highlighting the orange-red mist of pepper spray hitting the snarling Chow out front, door splintering, the sensory overload of a dynamic entry and watching the poor occupants squirm because they can't wipe the uncomfortable sleep from their eyes while handcuffed.

Good stuff few get to see.

[Trip]

Yep, I have fond memories of hitting the castles at 0600.

Sun just coming up, brightening and highlighting the orange-red mist of pepper spray hitting the snarling Chow out front, door splintering, the sensory overload of a dynamic entry and watching the poor occupants squirm because they can't wipe the uncomfortable sleep from their eyes while handcuffed.

Good stuff few get to see.

LMAO, Chief!! It looks like you got some R & R somewhere cause your descriptions are fricken funny, lol... you have GOT to write a novel!! Or have you already done that?????????????? Plz stop avoiding the perennial question I keep askin' ya, ok, LOL??????????????

[Trip]

A one size fits all front door key.
We went visiting and made two new friends

Kels, I have to confess when I saw the title of this thread I thought you meant word association and the first thing I thought of was Peter Gabriel's big megahit song, "I Wanna Be Your Sledgehammer."

I dunno, I always seem to screw up the word associations.....when you guys are talking black, I'm on white, and when I'm over, you're under.....patch gave me a whippin on the "word association" thread for using more than one fricken word...how was i to know??????

[patchcop]

l... you have GOT to write a novel!! Or have you already done that??????????????

Don't you know????Cat_Doc is Joseph Wambaugh from Arizona

Yep, I have fond memories of hitting the castles at 0600.

Sun just coming up, brightening and highlighting the orange-red mist of pepper spray hitting the snarling Chow out front, door splintering, the sensory overload of a dynamic entry and watching the poor occupants squirm because they can't wipe the uncomfortable sleep from their eyes while handcuffed.

Why do I have a complete movie in my brain now? Memories.

[Trip]

Don't you know????Cat_Doc is Joseph Wambaugh from Arizona

He could be, but no one can get him to talk

[Cat_Doc]

He could be, but no one can get him to talk

Ha. Give me a group of old timers and some 12 year old Yamazaki and they can't get me to shut up.

A few years ago we pulled an Old Boys Social Club reunion of all the honorably retired guys from the city I worked at.

Following a most outstanding BBQ, the spirits began flowing freely.

Someone had the (not too great) idea of videotaping as we took turns reminiscing stories from the old days, predominately busting balls of the guys in attendance and viciously thrashing those who decided not to show up.

I haven't laughed that hard in years.

In any event, sober and responsible review of the video resulted in its destruction. LOL

I’ve got plenty of stories to tell, but will have to wait for full retirement before the best ones surface.

[Trip]

I’ve got plenty of stories to tell, but will have to wait for full retirement before the best ones surface.

Geeeze, you are just like RDS, LOL: blah blah blah....because I have to wait for retirement...blah blah blah blah.....

Now Chief, I KNOW you've heard of living in the present, yes? Are you really going to make us wait that long before we get any good stories???? Don't you care about your RP brethren too?

[kels]

I think part of your problem is that you are on the outside looking in, so to speak.

Classic example, if I ask you, are you are on paper, you will probably think I lost my mind.
However, to anyone who has been on probation or in the system, being on paper is
being on parole or probation.

When I say I have paper for you, I have a warrant.
It makes perfectly good sense to us (cop and crook) but makes no sense to anyone else.

I dunno, I always seem to screw up the word associations.....when you guys are talking black, I'm on white, and when I'm over, you're under.....patch gave me a whippin on the "word association" thread for using more than one fricken word...how was i to know??????

[Cat_Doc]

Yep, certain phrases/questions like below would drive the "normal" citizens nuts.

Whose car are you riding in?

Did you go political?

Did you do hard time or soft?

Did you kill your number or do you have a hammer over you?

What's your score?

Is this your original or did you catch a second page?

Did you ever have to roll up?



These are just a few off the top of my head.

[Trip]

I think part of your problem is that you are on the outside looking in, so to speak.

Classic example, if I ask you, are you are on paper, you will probably think I lost my mind.
However, to anyone who has been on probation or in the system, being on paper is
being on parole or probation.

When I say I have paper for you, I have a warrant.
It makes perfectly good sense to us (cop and crook) but makes no sense to anyone else.

Yep, certain phrases/questions like below would drive the "normal" citizens nuts.

Whose car are you riding in?

Did you go political?

Did you do hard time or soft?

Did you kill your number or do you have a hammer over you?

What's your score?

Is this your original or did you catch a second page?

Did you ever have to roll up?



These are just a few off the top of my head.

I have to admit, "you're on paper," "did you go political," and "do you have a hammer over you," all sound strange to me. So Chief, what IS meant by, "Is this your original or did you catch a second page?"

[kels]

Just for you Trip, some moldie oldies

Interpreting a Police Report
>
> What the report SAID(1), What the report MEANT (2)
>
> (1) While on routine patrol...
> (2) I was in the car because the coffee shop was closed.
>
> (1) The motorist was operating his vehicle in a reckless manner
> (2) He had a bumper sticker that said "SLOW DOWN-DON'T FEED THE PIGS"
>
> (1) The accident scene and the safety of the victims prevented this
> officer
> from doing traffic control
> (2) It was raining.
>
> (1) This officer went out-of-service to obtain intelligence information
> from a street informant.
> (2) It was too hot to ride in the car.
>
> (1) I observed the suspect acting in a suspicious manner...
> (2) The dirt-bag let go with an "Oink" as I walked by.
>
> (1) Knowing the suspect had a criminal history...
> (2) He puked on my uniform one night...
>
> (1) The informant is of known credibility and has provided reliable
> information in the past...
> (2) I've got two theft cases hanging over his head...
>
> (1) While being arrested, this subject resisted being injured in the
> act...
> (2) He ripped my shirt and broke my new mirror sunglasses...
>
> (1) The motorist was cited for multiple traffic violations...
> (2) I wrote one citation for each swearword he used...
>
> (1) Upon announcing my title and purpose, I heard a voice from inside the
> house say "Come in" so this writer entered through the door...
> (2) The rock music was so loud they wouldn't have heard Patton's army so I
> kicked in the door.
>
> (1) The members of the press at the scene were offered every courtesy
> within departmental policies...
> (2) I sent then to a nonexistent address which I called the "Command
> Post."
>
> (1) I gave the motorist a verbal warning for speeding...
> (2) She was a good-looking blonde who owned a liquor store and who was
> free
> after my shift was over.
>
> (1) The Chief appeared at the scene and took command...
> (2) I sent him to the same address as the reporters.
>
> (1) Further interview of the witness was impossible, due to conditions.
> (2) It was my bowling night...
>
> (1) The motorist eyes were glassy, he had slurred speech, was unsteady on
> his feet, and smelled strongly of an alcoholic beverage.
> (2) He was howling at the moon and trying to drive the car from the back
> seat.
>
> (1) Using only enough force to restrain the subject...
> (2) My favorite song is "Drop-kick me Jesus Through the Goal Post of Life"
>
> (1) The defendant asked this officer's advice on how to act before the
> judge at his arraignment...
> (2) I told him he didn't have the balls to call the judge the same name he
> called me.
>

[Trip]

Just for you Trip, some moldie oldies

Interpreting a Police Report
>
> What the report SAID(1), What the report MEANT (2)
>
> (1) While on routine patrol...
> (2) I was in the car because the coffee shop was closed.
>
> (1) The motorist was operating his vehicle in a reckless manner
> (2) He had a bumper sticker that said "SLOW DOWN-DON'T FEED THE PIGS"
>
> (1) The accident scene and the safety of the victims prevented this
> officer
> from doing traffic control
> (2) It was raining.
>
> (1) This officer went out-of-service to obtain intelligence information
> from a street informant.
> (2) It was too hot to ride in the car.
>
> (1) I observed the suspect acting in a suspicious manner...
> (2) The dirt-bag let go with an "Oink" as I walked by.
>
> (1) Knowing the suspect had a criminal history...
> (2) He puked on my uniform one night...
>
> (1) The informant is of known credibility and has provided reliable
> information in the past...
> (2) I've got two theft cases hanging over his head...
>
> (1) While being arrested, this subject resisted being injured in the
> act...
> (2) He ripped my shirt and broke my new mirror sunglasses...
>
> (1) The motorist was cited for multiple traffic violations...
> (2) I wrote one citation for each swearword he used...
>
> (1) Upon announcing my title and purpose, I heard a voice from inside the
> house say "Come in" so this writer entered through the door...
> (2) The rock music was so loud they wouldn't have heard Patton's army so I
> kicked in the door.
>
> (1) The members of the press at the scene were offered every courtesy
> within departmental policies...
> (2) I sent then to a nonexistent address which I called the "Command
> Post."
>
> (1) I gave the motorist a verbal warning for speeding...
> (2) She was a good-looking blonde who owned a liquor store and who was
> free
> after my shift was over.
>
> (1) The Chief appeared at the scene and took command...
> (2) I sent him to the same address as the reporters.
>
> (1) Further interview of the witness was impossible, due to conditions.
> (2) It was my bowling night...
>
> (1) The motorist eyes were glassy, he had slurred speech, was unsteady on
> his feet, and smelled strongly of an alcoholic beverage.
> (2) He was howling at the moon and trying to drive the car from the back
> seat.
>
> (1) Using only enough force to restrain the subject...
> (2) My favorite song is "Drop-kick me Jesus Through the Goal Post of Life"
>
> (1) The defendant asked this officer's advice on how to act before the
> judge at his arraignment...
> (2) I told him he didn't have the balls to call the judge the same name he
> called me.
>

Oh, MANNNN, kels! +a bazillion! I just LOVE this site thank ya, sir

[Cat_Doc]

Those were prison related, Trip.

Whose car are you riding in? (What gang are you hooked up with or which leader are you following. The leader is the one who has the “juice” “calls the shots”…it can be at a local level like a yard, or it could be someone big calling shots throughout the system all the way to the streets)

Did you go political? (Did you hook up with a gang while in prison as opposed to doing your own time. Doing your own time is fairly difficult, especially if you are on a “high score” yard. You gotta hook up to survive. A lot a weak ****s will claim they did their own time, but if they were not hooked, they were biatches…punks…had to pay protection, etc. However, it is much easier to do your own time on a low score yard which are oft referred to as Camp Snoopy. If someone did time in SMU or Florence Central, they were in with the big boys. Picacho, Fort Grant, Globe, etc., were Camp Snoopies.)

Did you do hard time or soft? (Did you have to serve your full sentence or did you get 2 for 1 or reduced time served)

Did you kill your number or do you have a hammer over you? (Did you complete your full sentence (killing prison number) or are you on parole (hammer over head)

What's your score? (Security risk score assessed by prison administration based on your threat to the institution and to the public. This regulates what kind of custody you will placed in and has a lot to do with jobs, benefits and making parole.)

Is this your original or did you catch a second page? (A second page means you did a crime while in prison, were prosecuted, convicted and sentenced to extra time. This happens a lot when they get in the dope sack or do person crimes. There is, by the way, a difference between a tune-up, a beat- down and a hit.)

Did you ever have to roll up? (Did you ever have to ask for protective custody to get off a yard or out of a dorm. The phrase came from the old days when you kept your same mattress and had to roll it up to take with you on a move. Once you roll up into PC you carry that jacket around the rest of the time you are down and just having done that is enough for a beat-down or hit. Rarely will you see anyone walking an open yard that had rolled up down the line.)

[Trip]

Wow, Chief, that's like learning a whole new fricken foreign language, LOL. Thanks for the info! Really nice of you to explain it!!