Hi all!

[Joel.R]

Hi I'm Joel, I am an Honorably discharged from active duty U.S. Marine. I currently work as a Mill Security Guard who has always dreamed of working in the Law Enforcement Field and I have not pursued that dream yet. While I'm saying hello I would like to thank everyone on the site that has a public service job, I have the Utmost respect for those who put thier lives on the line and on hold for someone other than just themselves.

I have a couple of questions and I'm looking for a legit answer not a "Google" maybe answer. The other day at work I encountered a truck driver who was wearing sweatpants with one legging rolled up walking with a limp and holding his britches up at the same time, something I have not seen since the 90's. I have heard multiple possible reasons for wearing one legging rolled up but never heard anything solid on this as far as it's potential meanings. If someone could enlighten me on this with their experience I would greatly appreciate it.

My other question, is there really no hope for me to Legally bring my pistol into N.Y.? It's hard enough to carry concealed for me because I have to leave Vt. to go on an approximately 5 mile long road that is in N.Y. just to get to the next town south of mine in Vt. What about being able to go shooting with my brother who lives in N.Y.? In Vt. there is no Pistol Registration and even Joe Schmoe from the streets can carry concealed legally without a criminal record. Well I still have and active CCP I attained well stationed in Ga., a N.Y. Security license, and all sorts of firearm course certificates from the Marines... does none of this mean anything? Is there really no way for me to carry legally in N.Y.?

[marinepilot]

Joel, I can't answer your questions, 'cause I'm in Florida and know nothing of New York, but I did want to say Welcome to RP from the Florida Panhandle, and from a retired Jarhead! Thanks for your service!

[TEXASCOP]

According to the web site listed below, the only states that honor a Vermont Concealed License are Louisiana and North Carolina. On a positive note Vermont honors everyone's.

Ok, I just read through Vermont's information again and maybe the site is wrong. It pretty much says if you are older than 16 you can carry a gun in the open or concealed. Unless I read it wrong there is no licensing. You just need a gun and your not a felon.

Vermont Concealed Carry Permit Information

[Joel.R]

to MarinePilot- Semper Fidelis!!! and thank you for your service as well...

[Joel.R]

to TEXASCOP- I greatly apprecite you looking into those laws for me, however I may have worded that whole question wrong. I'm a Vt. resident by law next to the border of N.Y. and I'm trying to figure out a way to Legally carry my pistol in N.Y. it seems to me there has to be some way to register it in N.Y. without being a NY resident.

[Joeyd6]

Welcome Joel!

I am in NYC, worked for the NYPD and can tell you I see all sorts of things with pant legs, sleeves, etc... I have heard internet rumors, but never anything else about such. In the "ghetto" here, anything goes! My favorite is "Direct from Sing Sing Sing Prison.....Mike over there is sporting the relaxed look, with the socks with sandals."

As far as traveling 5 miles through NY with your gun, leaving VT and traveling through NY to get to teh other twon in Vermont. FOPA covers you...federal law....as long as you stop at the border....open the trunk.....put the gun in a seperate compartment from the passenger compartment (glove box and center console don't work), unload such and leave there. When you get back in Vermont, you can do the reverse and continue. Legally you can't CCW in NY, but you can travel through if the gun is in a seperate compartment and unloaded.

As far as coming to NY and visiitng and shooting with your brother.....a no go! You can't do such.

Non-residents:

A non-resident citizen may possess a rifle or shotgun in New York, as long as it is unloaded while being transported. No person may carry, possess or transport a handgun in or through the state unless he has a valid New York license. New York does not issue licenses to non-residents nor does it recognize licenses issued by other states. If a person is traveling from any place where he may lawfully possess and transport a firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and transport such firearm and the firearm is unloaded and in the trunk. In vehicles without a trunk, the unloaded firearm shall be in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console. Necessary stops, e.g., gasoline and rest, seem permissible.)

A member or coach of an accredited college or university target pistol team may transport a handgun into or through New York to participate in a collegiate, Olympic or target pistol shooting competition provided that the handgun is unloaded and carried in a locked carrying case and the ammunition is carried in a separate locked container. An alien may possess a rifle or shotgun for use while hunting provided he has a valid New York hunting license. "If such (handgun) license is issued to an alien, or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state, the licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good character of the applicant."

Non-resident target shooters may enter or pass through New York State with handguns for the purposes of any NRA approved competition if the competitor has in his possession a copy of the match program, proof of entry and a pistol license from his state of residence. The handgun must be unloaded and transported in a locked opaque container.

[Joel.R]

Joey, thank you very much for your help. I appreciate your time and detailed response, I think I might actually write Governor Andrew Cuomo on this pistol issue. an NRA or olympic member can shoot at a scheduled event, "An alien may possess a rifle or shotgun for use while hunting provided he has a valid New York hunting license. "If such (handgun) license is issued to an alien, or to a person not a citizen of and usually a resident in the state, the licensing officer shall state in the license the particular reason for the issuance and the names of the persons certifying to the good character of the applicant."

but Military personnel in a trusted position may not because they're not a state resident? please someone that disagrees with me or sees something in this that i'm missing help me understand how that could possibly be morally correct...