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    Lara Logan Claims

    Okay, I have watched the video of this woman and have come to some conclusions. Please, can members of law enforcement who have dealt with rape victims comment on it. Watch it without sound and perhaps you will see what I am talking about. This is supposedly a woman less than a month post trauma event. My assessment is that she is outright lying, meaning either she is a media pawn, a deliberate tool or she is histrionic. Watch the body language of the man interviewing her. Lara Logan strikes me as a Psychopath. Listening to it with sound, you will see how vague her "descriptions" of the trauma are.

    Also, if you have ever spoken to a rape victim, even years later, they do NOT respond this way. Even victims who are "numb" do not respond as she does. Can you please confirm or invalidate what I am seeing? Please. No, I am not Muslim or Egyptian. I am just very disturbed by the incited rage I am seeing wherein people are saying all 8 million people in egypt should be murdered. This is psychotic thinking and that one woman has found a way to have that kind of power over the masses. Very very disturbing. I believe CBS is seeking to orchestrate violence within the USA against Middle Eastern and Muslim peoples. So as far as my observation goes, she is reciting a script she prepared prior to this. The only time she speaks freely is at the end claiming that "reporters are risking their lives" blah blah blah... anyway please comment. What do your elf eyes tell you?

    Okay, first off, if anyone watched the video of Lara Logan "talking about her experience" you will notice a few important things. Her physical reaction is not in line with the physiological emotional reaction of a rape victim.

    1. When she "tears up," her eyes become red, but there is no swelling or redness in the lids near the eyelashes. The tears come first. Why? Because her reaction is contrived. She is ACTING. The tears are NOT real. Furthermore, in terms of her physiological response. Watch her mouth. A woman in pain who has been traumatized will have a tightening of her chin and mouth musculature just prior to beginning to cry.Nope, she smiles in the video, almost playfully. She likes the 60 minutes male attention she is receiving from the man interviewing her.

    2. Lara Logan says generalized things like "you can't imagine what they did to me." Rape victims do NOT do this. They say specifically what was done to them: they held me down, they stuck themselves inside me, they took turns getting on top of me, they held my arms right here... etc. She wants the listener to IMAGINE things done to her. Because nothing was actually done to her. This is what a psychopath does when brainwashing others. They want the subject to "imagine" the worst they can, they do not want to get caught in a direct lie. I firmly believe this woman staged this and was NOT raped.

    3. If she was "brutally sodomized, gang raped, fisted, finger f*cked, even "beaten with poles" for 30-40 minutes, why exactly can she show up for an interview two months later and sit calmly while chatting about it. Unless she means she was beaten with Polish people... which might explain the lack of physical injury. My belief from listening to the testimony of abuse victims is that she would not be able to sit, and still have vaginal and anal pain upwards of 2 years later. She showed no signs of pain whatsoever. Seems instead like she is trying to keep from smiling. Furthermore,there was not a bruise on her, no broken teeth, no swollen eyes. Are Egyptian men made of marshmallow? Do all Egyptian men has unusually small peni and weak fists? Did you see Kadafi or Saddam Hussein after the "evil Muslim hordes" got hold of them for less than 5 minutes? They did not look "pretty." Now she is claiming the men "just pinched her really hard all over her body. Awe, she got piinched... that so mean! Note that the man speaking in this video does NOT say she was hanging limp naked and bleeding!

    4. Let's assume she was "numb." Okay... but even the numb response doesn't come off right. A numb person does not speak this way. I have seen numb women after trauma. The idea that she is "rendered numb" makes me want to spit. And as a lady, I do not routinely spit. What does YOUR experience tell you?

    5. Watch her as she speaks. She hesitates because she has memorized the things she intends to say. She has an agenda. I cannot imagine that a woman raped and "pulled apart" for 40 minutes would have no bleeding. Even the male reporter with her never mentions blood. He doesn't even say she was naked. He just says she was "hanging limp."

    6. For any of you who are law enforcement, you will also need to question how a man "threw her over his shoulder" and carried her the entire way as a limp package. Please comment on this!! It is horse crap! Unless you are some 6'7" Scottsman built like a tank.. Me thinks this would be a challenge for the average police officer (or man in general). No offense guys; but tell me you could carry a limp body slung over your shoulder. And having personally been tossed over a man's shoulder (stupid foot ball player in college) a man's shoulder in your gut is not a pleasant feeling. Yet she does not comment on that at all. Interesting.

    I have personally spoken to many women who have been raped singularly, gang raped and molested. This woman was NEVER violated like that. My assessment: Lara Logan is a pathological liar. What do you think. Do I think she got terrorized, shoved, pinched, groped and had her hair pulled? Yep. Do I think she was stripped naked, beaten savagely and raped. LOL... uh.. not at all.

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    I don't agree with your assessment that she is lying.

    She gave a lot of specific details. Details so specific that she knows her bra had been ripped off because she felt the air on her chest.

    She is claiming that she was "raped" by their "hands"..."both front and back" as she was being joggled around throughout the crowd. That is detailed information.

    I have personally watched men carry other men over their shoulders in training scenarios. Just take a look at the "Wounded Warrior" logo for an example that it is done all the time under combat scenarios.

    I'm not going to waste my time explaining to you all the different details she mentions that would lead me to believe she was being truthful about what she recalls happening to her.

    Now, on the other hand, I have issue with your posting and strongly suspect an ulterior motive.

    Finally, I am disgusted with your ending of LOL.

    Absolutely nothing described by the woman is worthy of laughing at.
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    I can't disagree with star_gazer more. What she is describing sounds very credible. Being blond places her in a position of being the object of sexual harassment and rape in that part of the world. If you've ever been in a fight, a serious fight where you thought you were going to die, you would have many of the physical response she described. She said she accepted the fact that she was being raped, that doesn't negate the mental trauma of the action, but it does make it easier to come to terms with. You will be surprised how much pain you can put up with if you know it will save your life and you are physically spent from fighting. So could she handle the pain of being carried over someone's shoulder? Absolutely, especially since it was her only way out and she was physically exhausted.
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