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    california and prop 19

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    New to the sight but hope it will be worth the sign in. (took forever). I still dont have access to the whole site.
    I am a Deputy in Calif. I am a new K9 handler and wanted to know if anyone had any comments on the Prop 19 issue. What will this do to K9 searchs in CA.
    My dog is both patrol and narcotics Cert.
    Please let me know your thoughts

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    Question on California Prop 19?
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    Department policy may vary, but I doubt they will let you or your dog smoke marijuana if Prop 19 passes.
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    I wouldn't worry too much about Prop 19. Even the ultra liberal LA Times says the latest polls indicate 51% of the people oppose legalization while only 39% favor it. I don't think it is going to pass.

    Prop. 19 trailing badly, poll shows - latimes.com

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    Thanks for all the commits,
    I also watched the news today and found that prop 19 is trailing by a good margin. That surprises me, but I’m glad. I oppose the legalization of marijuana. I have to kids in high school and have seen the effects on their class mates. I am also a former TF agent. I’ve walked into too many house and witnessed the effects of drugs on families.
    My main concern was my dog is trained to alert on the odor of a controlled substance, including marijuana. What happens if it becomes legal?
    Well I will worry about it if it passes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c.pipkin View Post
    Well I will worry about it if it passes.
    Yep, cross that bridge when you come to it. Too many people have already gotten riled up over something that is still in the wind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Doc View Post
    Yep, cross that bridge when you come to it. Too many people have already gotten riled up over something that is still in the wind.
    Yep, now we can worry about the serious stuff. Like the world coming to an end in December of 2012!
    Apparently, I'm supposed to be more angry about what Mitt Romney does with his money than what Barack & Michelle Obama do with mine

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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    I'm sure your department will give legal guidelines on the matter if it passes, after they get with your District/State Attorney.
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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    Yep, now we can worry about the serious stuff. Like the world coming to an end in December of 2012!
    Dag, wouldn't it be cool if we knew it was all ending Dec of 2012? I'd eat like a pig and spend all my savings. But alas, we're not that fortunate, and we all have to keep our discipline intact and noses to the grind. I love any opportunity to dispel myths and conspiracy theories, so pls see below for some of NASA's answers to 2010 questions:

    Question (Q): Are there any threats to the Earth in 2012? Many Internet websites say the world will end in December 2012.
    Answer (A): Nothing bad will happen to the Earth in 2012. Our planet has been getting along just fine for more than 4 billion years, and credible scientists worldwide know of no threat associated with 2012.

    Q: What is the origin of the prediction that the world will end in 2012?
    A: The story started with claims that Nibiru, a supposed planet discovered by the Sumerians, is headed toward Earth. This catastrophe was initially predicted for May 2003, but when nothing happened the doomsday date was moved forward to December 2012. Then these two fables were linked to the end of one of the cycles in the ancient Mayan calendar at the winter solstice in 2012 -- hence the predicted doomsday date of December 21, 2012.

    Q: Does the Mayan calendar end in December 2012?
    A: Just as the calendar you have on your kitchen wall does not cease to exist after December 31, the Mayan calendar does not cease to exist on December 21, 2012. This date is the end of the Mayan long-count period but then -- just as your calendar begins again on January 1 -- another long-count period begins for the Mayan calendar.

    Q: Could a phenomena occur where planets align in a way that impacts Earth?
    A: There are no planetary alignments in the next few decades, Earth will not cross the galactic plane in 2012, and even if these alignments were to occur, their effects on the Earth would be negligible. Each December the Earth and sun align with the approximate center of the Milky Way Galaxy but that is an annual event of no consequence.

    "There apparently is a great deal of interest in celestial bodies, and their locations and trajectories at the end of the calendar year 2012. Now, I for one love a good book or movie as much as the next guy. But the stuff flying around through cyberspace, TV and the movies is not based on science. There is even a fake NASA news release out there..."
    - Don Yeomans, NASA senior research scientist Q: Is there a planet or brown dwarf called Nibiru or Planet X or Eris that is approaching the Earth and threatening our planet with widespread destruction?
    A: Nibiru and other stories about wayward planets are an Internet hoax. There is no factual basis for these claims. If Nibiru or Planet X were real and headed for an encounter with the Earth in 2012, astronomers would have been tracking it for at least the past decade, and it would be visible by now to the naked eye. Obviously, it does not exist. Eris is real, but it is a dwarf planet similar to Pluto that will remain in the outer solar system; the closest it can come to Earth is about 4 billion miles.

    Q: What is the polar shift theory? Is it true that the earth’s crust does a 180-degree rotation around the core in a matter of days if not hours?
    A: A reversal in the rotation of Earth is impossible. There are slow movements of the continents (for example Antarctica was near the equator hundreds of millions of years ago), but that is irrelevant to claims of reversal of the rotational poles. However, many of the disaster websites pull a bait-and-shift to fool people. They claim a relationship between the rotation and the magnetic polarity of Earth, which does change irregularly, with a magnetic reversal taking place every 400,000 years on average. As far as we know, such a magnetic reversal doesn’t cause any harm to life on Earth. A magnetic reversal is very unlikely to happen in the next few millennia, anyway.

    Earth, as seen in the Blue Marble: Next Generation collection of images, showing the color of the planet's surface in high resolution. This image shows South America from September 2004. Q: Is the Earth in danger of being hit by a meteor in 2012?
    A: The Earth has always been subject to impacts by comets and asteroids, although big hits are very rare. The last big impact was 65 million years ago, and that led to the extinction of the dinosaurs. Today NASA astronomers are carrying out a survey called the Spaceguard Survey to find any large near-Earth asteroids long before they hit. We have already determined that there are no threatening asteroids as large as the one that killed the dinosaurs. All this work is done openly with the discoveries posted every day on the NASA NEO Program Office website, so you can see for yourself that nothing is predicted to hit in 2012.

    Q: How do NASA scientists feel about claims of pending doomsday?
    A: For any claims of disaster or dramatic changes in 2012, where is the science? Where is the evidence? There is none, and for all the fictional assertions, whether they are made in books, movies, documentaries or over the Internet, we cannot change that simple fact. There is no credible evidence for any of the assertions made in support of unusual events taking place in December 2012.

    Q: Is there a danger from giant solar storms predicted for 2012?
    A: Solar activity has a regular cycle, with peaks approximately every 11 years. Near these activity peaks, solar flares can cause some interruption of satellite communications, although engineers are learning how to build electronics that are protected against most solar storms. But there is no special risk associated with 2012. The next solar maximum will occur in the 2012-2014 time frame and is predicted to be an average solar cycle, no different than previous cycles throughout history.

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    This is an interesting development.... I wouldn't have thought this......

    New High of 46% of Americans Support Legalizing Marijuana
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