let's be honest...

[really?]

Fellow LE officers, pubic... I think it's time we need to bring a little truth in what really takes place on the street. I want to share my personal opinion relating to our "dirty work". I want to start off giving a heads up to the rookies out there. I hope that you listen and try to understand, while you're still new the force, what must exactly happen, in order to get the arrest made.
Now, rookies, if you have not experienced this and have "honor" to yourself and the department for the rest of your time in uniform, my hat's off to ya. Please keep that attitude for the rest of your career. There WILL come a time when yo have to make that decision.
Whether the long shifts affect your demeanor, family problems, or the simple fact that you put your life on the line everyday for the public and do not get the pay or the respect you should deserve. Or maybe all fo the above may at one time have an impact on your ability to see yourself doing right 100% of the time. Trust me, that day will come.

Everyone suspects it- the corruption that takes place in the force. The sad thing, it's mostly true, but most of the time, it is never revealed. Corruption could be as serious as tampering with a murder case to get the guy nailed for something WE knew he did, but cannot prove it. Or it can be as simple as lying about a radar detector's accuracy.

It happens folks, and the question is, do we need that amount of "corruption" to make the system happen. It's all about money. The court system, the politics, the pay for the Chief, Mayor, counsel and everyone else involved.
In some cases, i say we do need it. First and foremost, public safety. We have a murderer on the loose and we're going to lie under oath to get him put away.
In other cases,... " I don't like the way that guy looked at me"... " so I will throw a little something inside his vehicle and get him on posession."

So, where is the balance? I don't believe i can answer that question. Truthfully, this should be black and white. But it will never be that way.
We walk around with a badge thinking we can do whatever we want and actually believe we are a step above the guy packaging groceries in the store. And if he challenges me, I will find a way to get him on some charge one way or the other.

On our defense, the public wants us around whenever you need us. Any other time, we're just wasting the taxpayer's money everytime we stop for a coffee.
But when bad guy pulls up in your yard and whips out a gun, you call on us.... And you turn a blind eye whenever we corruptfully do something to get him put away. But any other time, we're the center of attention for some other corruption charge brought on by your neighbor.

So, what is your opinion on all of this? I am looking forward to everyone having HEALTHY debate here.

[Piggy]

So, what is your opinion on all of this? I am looking forward to everyone having HEALTHY debate here.

I look forward to you getting verified and introducing yourself. Welcome aboard.

[Citicop]

Welcome aboard.

You claimed to be a police officer in your post. You need to contact a moderator to be verified as a LEO to continue your stay here.

As to my opinion of your post, there is no place in Law Enforcement for corruption, and you will not get anyone here to agree with you. Cops who lie under oath and commit other crimes are criminals, and need to be disciplined at work or arrested as appropriate. There is no middle ground or room for compormise.

Please PM me and let me know when you have begun the process of verification.

Thanks-

Citicop.

[retdetsgt]

It happens folks, and the question is, do we need that amount of "corruption" to make the system happen. It's all about money. The court system, the politics, the pay for the Chief, Mayor, counsel and everyone else involved.
In some cases, i say we do need it. First and foremost, public safety. We have a murderer on the loose and we're going to lie under oath to get him put away.
In other cases,... " I don't like the way that guy looked at me"... " so I will throw a little something inside his vehicle and get him on posession."

Bull****. If you can't do the job without lying, quit and get a job in a grocery store. Cops, if you are a cop, like you make me sick.

I've worked around people like you and when they get caught, it reflects on all the honest cops out there.

[Cat_Doc]

Ditto on the bull****.

1st, I don't beleive the OP is an active LEO, but rather a troll. The crap he/she wrote sounds like something out of a book or movie script.

2nd, if it is an active LEO, he/she is a cancer on an honorable profession and a POS who cant ever be trusted, not even if you leave your wallet out for a second on a desk at work.

Either way, the seconds are ticking away on this OP.

[greg72982]

What?!?!? Where are you a cop so I know not to work there. You wont ever see me sell out morally by lying under oath or tampering with evidence. Unlike you I take it seriously.

[Cat_Doc]

I have already found troll evidence with some initial research. Get your two cents in quick, because I don't intend to leave this crap up for long.

[kels]

God I love homework, but dont you feel morally corrupt asking us to do yours for YOU.

[SuperTrooper]

This whole post is BS. I say Ban his ***!!!

[cntryboy0531]

Troll. He's full of ****. Corruption of any kind does NOT belong in law enforcement and I will not have my honorable profession's image soilded by dirty cops. I will not stand for it. OP is probably not a cop, just some snot nosed punk looking to troll. Sounds like a friggin movie script.

[Chef_Au]

Sounds like a high school criminology or sociology essay topic:

Discuss whether the merits of lying under oath or police corruption outweigh the greater good.

Limit 3000 words

"Sir, I spoke to a bunch of coppers and got their opinions, aren't I a good little troll"

[GoDirectly2Jail]

Hey! I can hear the theme song from Dragnet!

Dumb, dumb dumb dumb.

[tcop733]

Troll whom probably has had a few BAD experiences with the law. Of course, none of it was his fault, he was unfairly targeted, the system is corrupt, cops are on the take, yada yada. Everything that happened to him was not his fault.
You should really try to learn some LE lingo before posing as a LE officer.

[Joeyd6]

To The Original Poster:
-We have rules here. You must get verified if you are are claiming to a LEO like you are. In addition, we don't condone illegal behavior of any officer. I don't know any cop on here or in my life that was dumb enough to lie on the stand to put a murderer away. You self admittedly are OK with that. I worked in the worlds largest police department, and while there were some issues, there was no deep rooted corruption. As a fed, I see none in the agency. The only "corruption" is the brass playing comp-stat/constat/stat games. You seem to think there is everyday corruption wide spread in law enforcement. Based on your post, if you are a LEO, you should be heading to IAB about your issues. And don't project your agency issues on every other agency out there. There are bad apples everywhere.

To Our Members:
-Folks, I don't see how this thread will do anything positive for us or the board at this time. We have somebody claiming to a LEO, posting some highly controversial comments, one bordering on illegal. Many of our senior members have been in on this and so far everybody has that bad taste in their mouth. Rather than waiting to throw-up, lets just spit this out now, and close the thread. If somebody wants to open a productive one about the topic, go for it. But this one expired...time of death....21:07 on 9/18/10.