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    Quote Originally Posted by MPI1 View Post
    I was more upset about 2 days suspension for a tactic that worked VERY well with no injuries except maybe a bruised ego!
    Okay, I may be confused and out of the loop, but just what tactical advantage was served by throwing the boy up on the hood?

    I think I just would have walked him to the back door of the cruiser and stuffed him in there.
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    I know what you're saying... how can they side with the offenders in a volatile situation where a use of force is necessary?

    I guess I would respond with "get used to it". It's the way things are going these days. If it's new to you, its only because Texas is behind the curve on scapegoating cops whenever a citizen has a problem with what we do or how we do it.

    I can tell you two days off is peanuts where I live. If it had been me, I'd have gotten 45 days, PLUS another 10 days for putting a dent in the hood of the squad. Five days if just the paint was scuffed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat_Doc View Post
    Okay, I may be confused and out of the loop, but just what tactical advantage was served by throwing the boy up on the hood?

    I think I just would have walked him to the back door of the cruiser and stuffed him in there.
    When the backup approaches, you can kind of see the kid's feet shuffling around, as if he was about to bolt. No-Shirt is standing there yelling, looks like he's about to intervene. The Hat Cop was deep into an adrenaline dump by that point. I'm just speculating, but he probably just wanted to stabilize the kid so he wouldn't run, but couldn't because of No-Shirt's advancing on him. The stabilization got a little carried away and became a 'throw'.

    Sound good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    When the backup approaches, you can kind of see the kid's feet shuffling around, as if he was about to bolt. No-Shirt is standing there yelling, looks like he's about to intervene. The Hat Cop was deep into an adrenaline dump by that point. I'm just speculating, but he probably just wanted to stabilize the kid so he wouldn't run, but couldn't because of No-Shirt's advancing on him. The stabilization got a little carried away and became a 'throw'.

    Sound good?
    LMAO!

    I could see that in an offense report, with the caveat; that based on the small stature of the detainee the momentum carried him further than intended to stabilize the suspected escape attempt!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    When the backup approaches, you can kind of see the kid's feet shuffling around, as if he was about to bolt. No-Shirt is standing there yelling, looks like he's about to intervene. The Hat Cop was deep into an adrenaline dump by that point. I'm just speculating, but he probably just wanted to stabilize the kid so he wouldn't run, but couldn't because of No-Shirt's advancing on him. The stabilization got a little carried away and became a 'throw'.

    Sound good?
    I was thinking, put the kid down HARD so 'No-shirt' wouldn't want to get frisky. I have only been through 3 DAAT classes but I have been told by several instructors if you put one down hard you, A) disorient subject a, and B) make it so that the others know you aren't messing around.

    You guys have years of experience of getting into fights, and multiple subject factor kicking in, that is what I have been taught. May be wrong or out dated, but that was how I was trained. I am open to any discussions on the subject.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPI1 View Post
    I am open to any discussions on the subject.
    I don't know about all of you guys, but what about that redhead.. My daddy always told me, if you can't get a real one, get the next closest thing. I have been hitting up my wife to turn her head into a crimson beacon. So far, no such luck.

    Oh wait.. you were referring to tactics.. my bad..

    This could be a prime example of why OC spray sucks against certain people. Not sure if no-shirt got sprayed, but if he did, it sure didn't effect him much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    No-Shirt needed to go to jail also. He was obstructing an arrest. It looked like the back-up guy popped him at 0:12, then he ran in a circle and punched the side of the pick-up at 0:24.

    Why is there always at least one grossly obese woman who shows up in the middle of any incident, screaming and pointing fingers? Notice how she yells in hysterics at the camera at about 1:10 - 1:14?
    I agree. It looked like No-shirt was about to hit the officer as the patrol car rolled up.

    I will not arm chair quarterback you MPI1. All the officers went home safe! I had to get verbal with a drunk last night for touching my patrol car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt581 View Post
    It looked like the back-up guy popped him at 0:12
    Actually if you look really close it appears that the officer has pepper spray in his hand.


    I always take these kinds of videos with a grain of salt. I didn't see what happened beforehand... for all I know the cuffed guy was biting the first officer just before the backup arrived.

    However, if there was a suspension issued then it may very well have been uncalled for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MPI1 View Post
    I was more upset about 2 days suspension for a tactic that worked VERY well with no injuries except maybe a bruised ego!
    Plus one. That officer was pumped w/ adrenaline. When the backup officer arrived, the officer moved the squirrelly kid to the car. Ok, the kid was light. I doubt the officer meant to toss him to that extent. But, in this line of work, it's always best to make your first attempt your last.

    This officer was done an injustice...
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    That was an I'M THE PO PO SLAM. The scene was already de-escalating when back up showed; he added fuel to fire. Then he let maybe seven angry people come onto the scene. Funny stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bywayofbrooklyn View Post
    That was an I'M THE PO PO SLAM. The scene was already de-escalating when back up showed; he added fuel to fire. Then he let maybe seven angry people come onto the scene. Funny stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bywayofbrooklyn View Post
    That was an I'M THE PO PO SLAM. The scene was already de-escalating when back up showed; he added fuel to fire. Then he let maybe seven angry people come onto the scene. Funny stuff.
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    Holy crap, that was a heck of a slam, that cop should check out the UFC in his spare time. Oh, and don't feel too bad about the cop getting suspended, just think of all the torment that the kid got when he went back home, and everybody found out that he got his *** handed to him by a cop, on video. I'd say that would make it worth it, to me at least.

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    Btw, JFYI, the officer was reinstated - after further review, his use of force was found reasonable...

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