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    Good Morning

    Today is Sunday, 07Jun08. I mention the date because yesterday was the 65th Anniversary of the landings at Normandy. Yesterday, our President Barack Obama commemorated the event by publicly speaking at Normandy. In this speech he mentioned, if only obliquely, the inherent values of freedon, sacrifice, and duty. But while he was giving this speech that praised the efforts of the men who fought, bled, and died for freedom from tyranny and oppression, anothe speech sat, taped, for release. In that speech, President Obama expressed his desire to further increase the power of the US government, this time taking control of healthcare. This propsed expansion of governmental control would join the governments increased power over banking and business.

    I find the actions of our President to be despicable. As the anniversary of D-Day approaced, our President stood before a crowd in Egypt and, while directly speaking to the assembled crowd, also spoke to the Muslim people as a whole. While his intent I must only believe was noble, his words were not. Never once did he use the word 'terrorism', instead choosing the word 'extremism'. That's outrageous. Extremism is an ideology - a belief. Terrorism is a criminal action, and it's real. To refer to murderous criminals as "extremists' in an effort to assuage the sensibilities of a people that view their spouses as mere property is ludicrous and offensive to freedom loving people everywhere. Then, using the occasion of D-Day as a cover - a diversion - he releases another speech that runs contrary to everything those men on those beaches fought and died for.

    Our nation is witnessing assualts against its way of life. Not only from foreign and dometic-grown terror but from our own government as well. Assaults aginst your liberty and freedom are being waged. As these assaults grow in scope and size, two things wil happen: LEO's will be required to ensure their enforcement, and people accross the nation will rebel. Again, as LEO's we will be required to deal with those people as well. The decision to act seems like a simple one. People violate the law or the law needs to be enforced, we do it. But the water becomes much less clear when the law itself is questionable. Law, as we know, is not infallible in its creation. We have seen enough court rulings handed down that are liberal in their intent and encompassing in their breadth. To look to the law, then, for affirmation of national principle cannot be assured.

    My fear has been that laws based upon poor rulings which run contrary to our Constitution will be passed, and we as LEO's will be required to enforce them. The solution to this is simple: Don't fight the law, work to make sure that the law is never passed. That is what this group is about. We want to make sure that laws that call in to question Constitutional issues are not passed, and to that end we want to provide information for LEO's everywhere.

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    I like the theory you are working under here! How often does this conflict with your occupation? Every day, yes?

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    We're actually more concerned that the growing power of the Federal government poses a real and serious risk to our nation, our liberty, and our Constitution.

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    You are not alone in your concern! There is a similar site to what you are talking about. I cannot yet post links but if you seek out oathkeepers you will find many current and former military that are seeing the same problem!

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    We know of the Oath Keepers.
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    One of the problems is in the Constitution itself, the 14th Amendment. It was rammed down the South's throat after the Civil War (War of Northern Aggression to some) by telling them they couldn't have representation in Congress until they ratified it.

    The idea looks great on paper, but it's been an open door to allow the federal government to interfere with states. A recent example was an initiative passed by California limiting the amount of welfare newcomers to the state could get. For their first year of residence, they could only get the same amount of welfare they could get in their former state.

    The Supreme Court struck it down under the auspices of the 14th Amendment telling California what they had to pay welfare recipients out of their state coffers because of equal protection.

    The other problem, of course is money. States being greedy, are anxious to take federal funds that always have strings attached. It was like me telling my oldest daughter that I would have a say in how she lived her life in college as long as I was footing the bills. If she wanted to pay her own way, she could do it anyway she wanted, but not until then.

    Money and the 14th Amendment have taken away any semblance of state sovereignty.
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    You just gotta realize he is hard of hearing and cranky, and try to speak up more clearly next time and make it perfectly clear what you were saying so there is no misinterpretation. You gotta try not to get mad at the old guy, recognizing the issue at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by retdetsgt View Post
    Money and the 14th Amendment have taken away any semblance of state sovereignty.
    And what we're seeing today is a wholescale effort on the part of the guv to strip away the last of it...using money, of course. "If you want some of these billions of dollars, then you have to do what we tell you to."

    When the prez of the US starts telling corporations who can be the head of the biz, then we're in some deep poop!

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    Good Evening,

    Today is 06 July, 2009

    We have finally gotten our site up and running. I'd like to invite you all to come by and take a look. Please see what we have to say.

    Law Enforcement Officers for the Constitution

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    Thanks, Mc.

    Here on RP, I see that our group has 29 members. I'd like to thank those members for joining their names in support of our idea. I'd also like to invite those members, as well as new members, to stop by our site, check it out, and register. Show your support for our Constitution as the supreme document and guiding principles for our country.

    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityOfChicago View Post
    Thanks, Mc.

    Here on RP, I see that our group has 29 members. I'd like to thank those members for joining their names in support of our idea. I'd also like to invite those members, as well as new members, to stop by our site, check it out, and register. Show your support for our Constitution as the supreme document and guiding principles for our country.

    Thank you

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    Glad to hear its up & running.

    I'll be stopping by shortly. ;)
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    We're getting an influx of new people in RP, so I wanted to bump this up to the top. All you newbies stop on by and check it out.

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    Of every one hundred men, ten should not even be here. Eighty are nothing but targets. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the One... One of them is a Warrior... He will bring the others back.

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    I made it over here Sarg as one of you newbees, now I'll wait for verification.

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    Great! Make an intro post in Rap Sheets and check the place out during the Verification process.

    Thanks for coming in here and also for stopping by the LEO's for the Constitution page.
    Of every one hundred men, ten should not even be here. Eighty are nothing but targets. Nine are real fighters, and we are lucky to have them, for they make the battle. Ah, but the One... One of them is a Warrior... He will bring the others back.

    "Wrong door, buddy!"

    Let no man's ghost say my training failed him.

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