Law Enforcement Officers for the Constitution

[CityOfChicago]

You've got 9 postings here and you're telling me that you already know all about me and my beliefs? Why don't you take a few hours behind the search function and read my posts. If you did you might find out that I accept regulations as most currently exist, I do not agree with the Patriot Act, I do not support waterboarding, I do not support the death penalty, and I have actively spoken out against police abuse of power and excessive force.

Did you read the appelate court ruling upholding the gun ban here in Chicago? Did you know that as a police officer I am required to register my own weapons and am precluded from owning others, despite the fact that I have training in using them and am a sworn officer of the law? Did you see that the same ruling upheld that states have the power to override the Constitution?

Who cares if people can carry guns in parks or church? How does that affect you? As a liberal, you must support abortion. Just think if someone was armed in the church where the doctor was killed. But just because somebody CAN carry a weapon doesn't mean they WILL. If you don't like guns, don't carry one.

Our homicide stats in this city are the highest in the nation - and we have the strictest gun laws. A cop I knew was shot and killed monday by some POS with a gun. Yeah - our gun restrictions are really effective at reducing gun related crime. I bet somebody would think twice about mugging grandma if she upped a .32cal. DC's recent gun laws were recinded.

Regulation is one thing - but bills writen that allow the AG to ban whatever gun he wants at will is stupid. And a law that allows the gov to come into my home at anytime to inspect my weapons and how they are stored is a violation of my 4th Amend rights. It's unreasonable becuase the giov has no articuable reasonable suspicion , let alone PC, to think I'm storing it otherwise. How about we also draft some laws that allow the gov to come into anyone's home and see if they are growing pot, or cooking crack, just because we want to?

Again, look at my posts. Read what has been posted. I'm not fixated onn the 2nd Amend - but I do agree that there are severe problems with how it's treated. Truth be told, you're the one with the 2nd Amend hang-up. Maybe instead of CJ you should study law.

[ChevySSP]

Hey hey hey I support Abortion and the Death Penatly.

But damn the Constitution allows me to believe what I want to believe

[drkknght]

Yep because bad guys don't bring there guns/weapons to national parks and churches right and who cares about packing a firearm in a bar as long as you are not drinking and you are being responsible.

I personally know someone who was gunned down and killed at a bar near where I was living by some **** head thug maybe if he were carrying that day he would still be alive and the banger wouldn't be.

Quite honestly I am tired of people like you who b!tch about law abiding citizens carrying firearms where it is legal to do so.

EDIT TO ADD: Wasn't there a shooting at a church where some pyscho went in with the intention to kill innocent people but luckily there was some one there that had a gun and killed the bad guy before he could do any damage.

[Citicop]

CoC-

You better watch yourself. Pinky is a Criminal Justice Student. While we're wasting our time "experiencing" and "working in" the Criminal Justice System... She's READING and doing RESEARCH about it.

Clearly, we can only hope she sticks around to continue enlightening all of us backwards clowns with her wisdom she's gained from UP TO 100 credit hours of people telling her about it. How can any of us who work it 40 hours a week hope to compare to her vast knowledge and experience?

I bet she's also an explorer, which makes her even more powerful... :rolleyes:

Citicop.

[ChevySSP]

The founding father's weren't moron's. They knew the Constitution would be changed as society changed and grew and progressed or even went the other direction. There are rules on how to change the Constitution and they knew this. They knew someday more people would be able to vote besides white men who owned land and someday women and other races would be able to vote. The founding father's also came to the U.S. to get away from the Church and State from being together as in the first amendment but you don't see many people caring about that too much. It's just all hypocritical and when you only focus solely on one amendment more than the other's it, to me anyways, takes away credibility as a Constitutional group. I also saw something about the Minutemen on the group's page. I'm sorry but if they are in any way involved with the group I would have to respectfully decline. I just don't want anything to do with them.

Boy go back and study your history.

While your at it pay attention to the papers at your college.

Good grief, if you even paid attention to the net you'd realize there's a big stink about a Mom not being able to read the Bible at her Son's show and tell project at school. :rolleyes:

[CityOfChicago]

CoC-

You better watch yourself. Pinky is a Criminal Justice Student. While we're wasting our time "experiencing" and "working in" the Criminal Justice System... He's READING and doing RESEARCH about it.

Clearly, we can only hope he sticks around to continue enlightening all of us backwards clowns with his wisdom he's gained from UP TO 100 credit hours of people telling him about it. How can any of us who work it 40 hours a week hope to compare to his vast knowledge and experience?

I bet he's also an explorer, which makes him even more powerful... :rolleyes:

Citicop.

The main reason I came back to RP was to return the favor that my elders gave me years ago - good advice. I figured I could use the years of experience in a busy district in a busy city to help pout some people who wanted to be police, or to help out the rookies with questions they felt to embarassed to ask at work in person.

I have no problem with college educations. I'm finishing my scond Master's, so of course I don't. But the idea that so many CJ students have - that cops are all backwards bigots and that their superior 4 year degree is going to single handedly professionalize policing is insulting. You'll find no bigger advocate for professionalism than CoC.

If you think we're all gun-nut rights abusing bigots, then why do you want to join us?

[tomtom83]

Wasn't it recently a law that was made and upheld where people can take guns into national park's? National park's for Christ's sake?

Bear. They gotta protect themselves from bear. And squirrels, apparently. And your garden-variety woods whackos. Especially when they are out camping with their families.

And here in TN I know there was talk recently on a local news affiliate talking about people taking guns into bars.

Need it in case the bartender tries to screw you over because he believes you are more drunk than you actually are. Or if someone gropes your girlfriend or threatens to shove a cue stick up your rear because you did the perfect trick shot.

In Texas can't you take your gun into church? What the hell do you need a gun in church for? Good grief people!

Gotta be prepared if Satan shows up. Or how about those religious fanatics who go off the deep end and decide God wants them to kill the congregation? Or some punk kids stealing from the offering plate. When I sit in the back row I like to use my sniper lens to get a better look at what's going on up front.

See, there are many good reasons and then some. My advice to you: Just don't irk us who carry and you will be fine. :D

EDIT TO ADD:
I should probably make it clear that I do carry and am in support of it. I'm not poking fun at those who carry, but those who feel we shouldn't.

[drkknght]

Honestly I am tired of people like this that do nothing but b!tch about law abiding citizens carrying firearms. People like you are why so many innocent people are killed by lunatics everyday.

I've met my fair share of people who whine and cry because I take my gun to the grocery store. Well guess what no where is safe anymore not for me and not for you if you want to be another statistic than so be it but I will not be at least not without a fight and while I trust the police and respect them I am not going to hope that they get to me on time to save me from the bad guy. The cops can't be everywhere at once and by the time they get to me they will have to clean up the dead body that I left and not the other way around.

[LittlePinky82]

Yep because bad guys don't bring there guns/weapons to national parks and churches right and who cares about packing a firearm in a bar as long as you are not drinking and you are being responsible.

I personally know someone who was gunned down and killed at a bar near where I was living by some **** head thug maybe if he were carrying that day he would still be alive and the banger wouldn't be.

Quite honestly I am tired of people like you who b!tch about law abiding citizens carrying firearms where it is legal to do so.

EDIT TO ADD: Wasn't there a shooting at a church where some pyscho went in with the intention to kill innocent people but luckily there was some one there that had a gun and killed the bad guy before he could do any damage.

Yet it was a law abiding citizen who killed those people at the UU church. It was a law abiding citizen who killed the Dr recently. It was a law abiding citizen who killed the cops in Pittsburgh. You know what they all had in common? They were all rightwingers who listened to Sean Hannity, Bill O'Reilly. The Pittsburgh cop killer shot those cops because he was a gun fanatic who believed every little thing that O'Reilly and Sean Hannity said and thus we have had in the last few month's THREE people die from rightwing rhetoric.

[LittlePinky82]

CoC-

You better watch yourself. Pinky is a Criminal Justice Student. While we're wasting our time "experiencing" and "working in" the Criminal Justice System... He's READING and doing RESEARCH about it.

Clearly, we can only hope he sticks around to continue enlightening all of us backwards clowns with his wisdom he's gained from UP TO 100 credit hours of people telling him about it. How can any of us who work it 40 hours a week hope to compare to his vast knowledge and experience?

I bet she's also an explorer, which makes her even more powerful... :rolleyes:

Citicop.

So which is it? Am I a male or female? And yes I am going about getting my education differently then you. Deal with it. Lots of people are and you're now dissing EVERY person who is doing that.

[LittlePinky82]

Boy go back and study your history.

While your at it pay attention to the papers at your college.

Good grief, if you even paid attention to the net you'd realize there's a big stink about a Mom not being able to read the Bible at her Son's show and tell project at school. :rolleyes:

Psst I have three words: Church of England. And yes hon I know all about that. She can't do that because of the separation we're supposed to have. It also depends on her own state's rules. So before you tell me I'm wrong learn your own history. In the day's of the founding father's the Church of England was very powerful and had influence over politics and they didn't want that and also didn't want politicians to get into religion. Hence the whole first amendment deal with religion.

[LittlePinky82]

The main reason I came back to RP was to return the favor that my elders gave me years ago - good advice. I figured I could use the years of experience in a busy district in a busy city to help pout some people who wanted to be police, or to help out the rookies with questions they felt to embarassed to ask at work in person.

I have no problem with college educations. I'm finishing my scond Master's, so of course I don't. But the idea that so many CJ students have - that cops are all backwards bigots and that their superior 4 year degree is going to single handedly professionalize policing is insulting. You'll find no bigger advocate for professionalism than CoC.

If you think we're all gun-nut rights abusing bigots, then why do you want to join us?

Maybe because I've come across too many who are? In most of my classes majority of the people are conservative in some manner. Those of us who are on the left even just a little bit are in the minority. It's called going by experience. Oh gee why I want to join? Maybe because I like it? Enjoy it?

[LittlePinky82]

Bear. They gotta protect themselves from bear. And squirrels, apparently. And your garden-variety woods whackos. Especially when they are out camping with their families.



Need it in case the bartender tries to screw you over because he believes you are more drunk than you actually are. Or if someone gropes your girlfriend or threatens to shove a cue stick up your rear because you did the perfect trick shot.



Gotta be prepared if Satan shows up. Or how about those religious fanatics who go off the deep end and decide God wants them to kill the congregation? Or some punk kids stealing from the offering plate. When I sit in the back row I like to use my sniper lens to get a better look at what's going on up front.

See, there are many good reasons and then some. My advice to you: Just don't irk us who carry and you will be fine. :D

EDIT TO ADD:
I should probably make it clear that I do carry and am in support of it. I'm not poking fun at those who carry, but those who feel we shouldn't.

Oh yes because if I don't have a gun and you do have a gun that's totally a level playing field. Sorry but I just don't trust it. Maybe if more people were serious about gun safety and learning how to shoot etc I would feel better about it. If you're a cop or something like that it's one thing but your average person is what worries me. Especially with recently with the killings we've had. :\

[Citicop]

So which is it? Am I a male or female? And yes I am going about getting my education differently then you. Deal with it. Lots of people are and you're now dissing EVERY person who is doing that.

You're female, which I didn't know when I first posted.

Not that it matters.

And I am not attacking everyone who gets the same method of education differently than I did.

I am attacking anyone who took a couple of college classes and thinks that their "experience" in the field of Criminal Justice in any way can be compared to the experiences of the people who do it for a living.

Here's a newsflash that you won't believe until it's too late. From the perspective of a hiring police department, a degree in Criminal Justice is no better than a degree in Art History. As long as there is a degree there, the box is checked off. No one in this field (which, again, *we* work in and *you* WANT to work in) cares what your major was in college.

For the record, I am in the process of getting my degree (in criminal justice). It's not a bad thing, but you don't have the experience to back up some of your claims (which have been proven incorrect) and your attitude is not winning you any friends here.

-Citicop

[Citicop]

Oh gee why I want to join? Maybe because I like it? Enjoy it?

How do you know you "like it?" What about it do you like? What experiences have you had with Law Enforcement that made you want to become an LEO?

-Citicop.