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    Hi. I have a situation and I don't understand much and the detectives working on this aren't getting back to us.
    My parents home was broken into by a family friend. Fingerprints were taken 4 days ago. He left 2 whole hand prints on the window he came in. He hawked an engraved wedding band which was recovered the next day by the police. Then we found a book of checks missing. Went to the bank and got 2 print outs front and back of two checks he wrote 2 himself 200 bucks each check and he forged my mothers signature and he did a very bad job of making it resemble her signature. We closed the account and brought the print outs 2 the detective. This kid used his own name and used his drivers license to cash them. We even told them which bank and what times and days he was there at the bank cashing them. This was givin to them 3 days ago. The home invasion was on Monday. Today is Friday and by Wednesday they had all of the evidence.
    This kid just spent 8 months in jail for doing this to another neighbor. The suspect lives 2 houses down from my parents. So he did his 8 months. He is on probation and we know he is hiding out in his parents house 2 doors down from my parents. We told the police he is there. We never get to talk to the detective on the case. He goes home at 4 and we don't know why they won't talk to us or why they don't go pick him up.
    Can you tell me why it would take 5 days to put together the evidence that was givin to them and 5 days for a warrent to be written and 5 days to grab a repeat offender that is on probation. I am so frustrated.
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    There is nothing we can do to help you. Try contacting the detective before he goes home at 4. He can tell you what is going on. If you continue to have problems, contact a supervisor in detectives.
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    Usually we are carrying and juggling more than just the one job and the ones we have need to be prioritised. You think they have all the evidence, but they may have needed statememts taking as well. If the Detective knocks off at 4 then call him before 4.
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    They are working on last weeks case of a similar magnitude and those victims are clamoring for action louder than you are.

    Detectives are given many cases at once and although your is important to you , there are many others out there just as important if not more inportant. There are also evidentiary requirements that may have to be met ( video from the bank) etc before they can file charges. When you talk of charges this serious , we can't always jump because you claim to have found the bad guy. What if you are WRONG and they arrest him on your say-so ?
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    It takes awhile to built a case against an individual who broke the law, so just be patient and let law enforcement do their job.
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    They have to get statements from the teller stating that the person using the driver' license was the guy on the picture. They are possibly waiting for video surveillance from the bank so they can get the guy's picture cashing your check. Sometimes that has to be authorized and sent from a central office. If the person stole your checkbook from a burglary, it's not far fetched to think that he may have committed another burglary and stolen someone else's drivers license to cash the check with, which is why they'd be waiting on the video. All that's required to lose a court case is reasonable doubt. If they went and arrested the guy solely because he used an ID to cash the check, it wouldn't be hard at all for a defense attorney to win the case. The detectives have to make a case airtight by getting enough evidence to prove to a jury that it was the guy they arrested.

    The detective could be on vacation or contracted the flu or something. It may come as a surprise but this is a job, and we get vacation time like everyone else.

    It could be that warrants are on file already and are just waiting to be served. Just because someone's on probation doesn't mean we can pick them up in 10 minutes. He could have moved to another address and didn't update his OL or the probation officer (very, very common). It could be that when he saw officers coming up to his house, he didn't answer the door, or was at work, or was out with friends.
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    thanks and its happening now

    Thank you for your replies. I have faith that the police and detectives are working on this. Its just knowing he is right there drinking beer and living it up that bothers me. He was a friend of the family for 16 years. Us kids grew up together and he called me the morning of the break in to borrow money but I told him no. He also asked me if my parents go to work everyday. Which I thought an odd question at the time but didn't think he would dare cross my family that way. Haha how stupid I can be.
    So if I seemed very hard on the detectives working my case please forgive me. Its just hard to sit on my hands and wait. I would love to go get him myself.
    And I was informed that the police and detectives went to his house this morning with the warrant ( they worked rather quickly in retrospect 5 days for evidence and warrant) but he had left in the middle of the night for hiding.
    I know he will be caught. And I see how the evidence must be gathered to convince others of his wrong doing. Even if we know it was him we can't act on just that alone.
    Thanks again.

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    Not quite sure how it works in your area, but could you try going to the courts and attempt to get a warrant issued yourself?

    I was in a situation where I got jumped by two guys who thought I was someone else. I called 911 once I got away and they continued to follow me. Luckily, the cops were right around the corner, and once they showed up they sorted everything out and broke it up quickly. However, only one of the two guys was arrested. Though, it turned out that guy who wasn't arrested gave a false name and date of birth, but the arresting officer never bothered to check.

    Because this happened in my dad's precinct and on his shift, my dad had it out with the arresting officer. Turned out, the guy had just been released from jail recently for something similar.

    Where I am, we have a County Police(where my dad works), and a Sheriff's Office. The SO works the jails, courts, and serves warrants, while the PD does the actual Law Enforcement. Once we tracked down who the guy was, we went down and filed the papers and brought our evidence with us.

    I had to go in by myself (17 years old) and meet with a Judge in her office. She listened to my case, reviewed my evidence, asked a few questions, and then decided to issue a warrant for the guy to appear for a motion in front of another judge to decide if the guy should be charged.

    It wasn't a warrant for his arrest, just to appear and to present his side. The SO served him, and I had to actually show up as well to present my case to another judge, who then had to make a ruling to either throw the charges out, or place him under arrest for the charges then and there.

    I have no idea how that would work in your area, or if it would even be possible. I don't know if it would be different because the Police already have an investigation going or not.

    Could a verified enlighten me a little? This was some 5 years ago, so not all the details are fresh in my memory.
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    warrent issued

    Hi. Here is an update. Broke in on Monday got warrant by Friday. Saturday they went to his house with no luck. I am sure they warned the father to call if he shows up.
    Well. We have seen the kid there at his parents house every day since Saturday so he obvoisly sitting right in that house. So can't his father get pulled in for harboring a criminal? Or maybe held on the fact that he is hiding this jerk from the cops?
    I know if they took the dad in for hiding this kid he would turn him self in.
    Oh if it were that easy.

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    Coming from a guy who has extensive history working on a fugitive task force and has served a ton of warrants, it is fairly difficult to get a family member for harboring. That's what parents do and they are given a little breathing room in this regard. They (the parents) would generally have to go above and beyond to get papered for harboring. With that said, I have arrested a a few mothers for aiding & abetting a fugitive (they actively helped the fugitive evade capture) as well as false statements to fed LE (again, actively assisting in fugitive's evasion of capture).

    You would be better served calling local LE when you see the kid going into the house or call when you see him leaving, supplying a license tag number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonne View Post
    Hi. Here is an update. Broke in on Monday got warrant by Friday. Saturday they went to his house with no luck. I am sure they warned the father to call if he shows up.
    Well. We have seen the kid there at his parents house every day since Saturday so he obvoisly sitting right in that house. So can't his father get pulled in for harboring a criminal? Or maybe held on the fact that he is hiding this jerk from the cops?
    I know if they took the dad in for hiding this kid he would turn him self in.
    Oh if it were that easy.
    What is the update on this situation?

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    Hi. Here is an update. I'm a week late on this update. The break in was done on Monday September 15th.
    The detectives are still building the case gathering evidence.
    The criminals parole officer got the warrant issued that Saturday.
    We watched his parents house faithfully. The criminal thought we would all be at work on Monday Sept 22nd. He was wrong. We watched him leave in a car. We couldn't get the plates fasts enough so we sat there waiting and he didn't stay gone for long. He came back in twenty minutes and we called the police. They came with in 5 minutes of our call. Surrounded his house...brought the dogs and called his *** out. We got to see him get handcuffed and brought away.
    We don't know much else other than no bail was set since he is a flight risk.
    We are waiting on a summons to go to court when everything is ready.
    My mom can finally sleep again.
    Thank you for your answers. You kept me calm through my wait.
    Now we can watch this punk due time for being such an idiot. God bless the justice system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yvonne View Post
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    We are waiting on a summons to go to court when everything is ready.
    My mom can finally sleep again.
    Thank you for your answers. You kept me calm through my wait.
    Now we can watch this punk due time for being such an idiot. God bless the justice system.
    Dear Yvonne:

    I'm happy to see that your criminal was arrested and given a "no Bond". Thank You for that update.

    I feel that we would be remiss if someone didn't warn you that it is highly likely that it will take a lengthy amount of time for your case to be brought to trial, so you may need to dig into that "patience" vault once more.

    Additionally, and I don't know where you live so this may or may not apply, in many locations after an amount of time has passed prior to Trial, it is possible that he may be given a Bond amount with which he might be allowed to return home... but hopefully it will be quite high and unachievable for either he or his family to meet.

    I advise you of this, not to concern you, but to make you aware of the possibilities and realities that come with the Justice system, which has become much too lenient in the last several years, if you ask me.:mad:
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