Battle Creek (MI)-Man just convicted of murder, goes for Deputies gun [PIC]

[Hockey9019]

One last thing, is it just me, or does this guy kind of look like Kwame kind of :D :D

[Norm357]

I am hesitant to post in this thread because

A. I am not a cop

And

B. I hate to MMQB.

I really want to know why one of those Cops didn't put a bullet in that mans head.

In my world, deadly force is met with deadly force, and trying to take a Cops gun should be met with instant death.


My .02 cents and worth every penny.

[chewy]

I am hesitant to post in this thread because

A. I am not a cop

And

B. I hate to MMQB.

I really want to know why one of those Cops didn't put a bullet in that mans head.

In my world, deadly force is met with deadly force, and trying to take a Cops gun should be met with instant death.


My .02 cents and worth every penny.

Well, I can't speak for the cops present but I'd say that probably the main reason he didn't get shot is that there was a COURT ROOM FULL OF FRIGGING PEOPLE!! We don't operate like the wild west movies there chief, when you have a guy going for a gun and the cop is all wrangled up in a struggle and the room is full of people you have to be a little more careful elst you end up killing the cop or others in the area.





Hockey,

That guy SOOOO looks like JackAzzz Kilpatfuch! Maybe we'll be lucky and HE'LL go to jail and try to grab a gun in the process. I know a lot of Detroit cops that won't care how many people are in the court room at that point, they all be a shootin! :D

[Norm357]

Chewy said:

Well, I can't speak for the cops present but I'd say that probably the main reason he didn't get shot is that there was a COURT ROOM FULL OF FRIGGING PEOPLE!! We don't operate like the wild west movies there chief, when you have a guy going for a gun and the cop is all wrangled up in a struggle and the room is full of people you have to be a little more careful elst you end up killing the cop or others in the area.

There were enough Officers on this man that another could have reached over and put his gun to asshats head and popped him.

But yeah.

[Wolfman]

Thanks for the post, it really puts how crucial situational awareness is, and being able to react to things instantly.

I'll be honest, I think that the primary reason he wasn't shot was the CNN factor. I think if there weren't camera's in there that would replay over and over a gun put to the suspect's head and fired - that it would have done.

I believe the secondary reason was the people in the courtroom.

Just my 2.

[Samuel]

There were enough Officers on this man that another could have reached over and put his gun to asshats head and popped him.

Yep. They could have contact shot him with a revolver or even stuck a blade into his neck...

[Samuel]

Thanks for the post, it really puts how crucial situational awareness is, and being able to react to things instantly.

I'll be honest, I think that the primary reason he wasn't shot was the CNN factor. I think if there weren't camera's in there that would replay over and over a gun put to the suspect's head and fired - that it would have done.

I believe the secondary reason was the people in the courtroom.

Just my 2.

I really really really hope that the "CNN factor" was NOT the main reason why this POS didn't get capped. I would have NO problem whatsoever explaining to everyone/anyone in the world why I shot that POS in front of rolling cameras or even live on national TV!

[JakeLock]

Yep. I read this earlier today and added the pic to my signature line. Never hurts to be reminded to stay vigilant. Looks like the deputy could use a refresher on weapon retention tactics.

I don't know about a refresher, but maybe this'll be a wake up call to him. Don't know about others but I was taught to go for the eyes, if possible, when someone goes for my gun. **** his eyeball, I'm going home tonight.

[Aussie George]

Just to make all your jaws drop....

we are not permitted to carry in court at all. When I was in my last town, a small country place, we only had court once a month. Admittedly it was only for minor matters, but the Courts Sheriffs were unarmed and we wore our belts into the court but no guns, unless we were to give evidence and then it is no belt as well. Oh and did I mention no metal detectors other than the Sheriff had a wand.

The bigger courts in the major town next to ours, and in the state capital, had metal detetcors, but only after some moron went into the state capital court and jumped the bench taking the stenographer hostage at knife point.

I attended court and had to go and lock my gun belt up in a secure area.

In my current town, our nation's capital, there are no security checks into court, no metal detectors, nothing....and we have to lock our guns away in a secure area.

Now I can go to do a talk at a Primary School or walk through a crowded shopping area, or down the local street with a gun and belt, but I can not wear it to a location where it is not only presumed, but expected, that all our local sh1tbags will be on any given day.

FREAKING NUTS!!! :mad:

[MP_Steve]

That's some crazy stuff.

[ChesCopPodz]

Up until 2002 officers here weren't allowed to carry into the courthouse. Thank god they changed that rule. Now uniformed officers can carry. Officers wearing suits (which is up to the officer for court, uniform or suit) cannot carry.

[wholesalestunna]

Very scary situation....

As for the bad guy he's lucky they had a tazer.... Otherwise he might be dead right now.

[Samuel]

I posted an article in LE forums:

http://forums.realpolice.net/showthr...355#post920355