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    I think SCOTUS is going to word their ruling so the gun ban for felons still remains. I can't predict how their ruling will affect concealed carry, but I doubt SCOTUS will uphold concealed carry as a constitutional right.

    A rule of thumb I think exists with the Roberts Court generally is they want to make as little waves as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Question View Post
    I think SCOTUS is going to word their ruling so the gun ban for felons still remains. I can't predict how their ruling will affect concealed carry, but I doubt SCOTUS will uphold concealed carry as a constitutional right.

    A rule of thumb I think exists with the Roberts Court generally is they want to make as little waves as possible.
    Despite that I believe that the 2nd was placed to enable the common man to defend against future tyrannical Governments, I am afraid you are correct in your assumption. The SCOTUS has been pretty half assed for the last several rulings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Question View Post
    I think SCOTUS is going to word their ruling so the gun ban for felons still remains. I can't predict how their ruling will affect concealed carry, but I doubt SCOTUS will uphold concealed carry as a constitutional right.

    A rule of thumb I think exists with the Roberts Court generally is they want to make as little waves as possible.
    The right to life is guaranteed under the 14th Amendment. Unless by a stroke of luck, LEO's are usually 30 seconds to 2 minutes away from responding to a life threatening situation. Most lethal situations are over with in 2-10 seconds.

    Taking away MY right to defend myself at ALL times violates my rights under the 14th Amendment. In addition, the 2nd Amendment states, in plain English, "the right to keep and bear arms."

    From Merriam-Webster dictionary:

    Main Entry:
    Keep

    transitive verb

    1: to take notice of by appropriate conduct : fulfill: as a: to be faithful to <keep a promise> b: to act fittingly in relation to <keep the Sabbath> c: to conform to in habits or conduct <keep late hours> d: to stay in accord with (a beat) <keep time>
    2: preserve, maintain: as a: to watch over and defend <keep us from harm> b (1): to take care of : tend <keep a garden> (2): support (3): to maintain in a good, fitting, or orderly condition —usually used with up c: to continue to maintain <keep watch> d (1): to cause to remain in a given place, situation, or condition <keep him waiting> (2): to preserve (food) in an unspoiled condition e (1): to have or maintain in an established position or relationship <keep a mistress> —often used with on<kept the cook on> (2): to lodge or feed for pay <keep boarders> f (1): to maintain a record in <keep a diary> (2): to enter in a book <keep records> g: to have customarily in stock for sale

    4 a: to retain in one's possession or power <kept the money we found> b: to refrain from granting, giving, or allowing <kept the news back> c: to have in control <keep your temper>
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    –verb (used with object)
    1. to hold up; support: to bear the weight of the roof.
    2. to hold or remain firm under (a load): The roof will not bear the strain of his weight.
    3. to bring forth (young); give birth to: to bear a child.
    4. to produce by natural growth: a tree that bears fruit.
    5. to hold up under; be capable of: His claim doesn't bear close examination.
    6. to press or push against: The crowd was borne back by the police.
    7. to hold or carry (oneself, one's body, one's head, etc.): to bear oneself erectly.
    8. to conduct (oneself): to bear oneself bravely.
    9. to suffer; endure; undergo: to bear the blame.
    10. to sustain without yielding or suffering injury; tolerate (usually used in negative constructions, unless qualified): I can't bear your nagging. I can hardly bear to see her suffering so.
    11. to be fit for or worthy of: It doesn't bear repeating.
    12. to carry; bring: to bear gifts.
    13. to carry in the mind or heart: to bear love; to bear malice.
    14. to transmit or spread (gossip, tales, etc.).
    15. to render; afford; give: to bear witness; to bear testimony.
    16. to lead; guide; take: They bore him home.
    17. to have and be entitled to: to bear title.
    18. to exhibit; show: to bear a resemblance.
    19. to accept or have, as an obligation: to bear responsibility; to bear the cost.
    20. to stand in (a relation or ratio); have or show correlatively: the relation that price bears to profit.
    21. to possess, as a quality or characteristic; have in or on: to bear traces; to bear an inscription.
    22. to have and use; exercise: to bear authority; to bear sway.



    Using clear, plain, concise English, the intention and wording of the Second Amendment is clear. At no time has it ever been intended for the citizens of this country to have their weapons controlled in any shape, form, or fashion by ANYONE. Our Government, the leaders that we have elected, have trampled on our rights as GUARANTEED under the Constitution. ANY restriction on weapons, aside from the logical and reasonable ban at Courthouses is an affront to our inalienable rights as American Citizens (although I do point you to the Smith County Courthouse shooting in Tyler, Texas. While he died from his injuries, Mark Wilson, a citizen with a valid CHL permit, drew his .45 Colt and fired on the gunman, David Arroyo, hitting him at least twice. Arroyo was wearing a "bulletproof" vest, so Wilson's shots did not take him down. Three LEO's and one civilian were injured, and 3 people died, including the gunman, his wife (the original target) and Mark Wilson.)

    The time for beating around the bush has come to an end. If it was the intent for only the military to have weapons, it would have been spelled out as such with provisions to the Continental Army. It mentions none of the such, but in plain American English, not the Queens English, it states:

    "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."


    The origin of the the term militia refers to the intention to provide a means of checks and balances to the US Government maintaining a Federal (Standing) Army. James Madison, a devout Federalist, stated :

    Let a regular army, fully equal to the resources of the country, be formed; and let it be entirely at the devotion of the federal government; still it would not be going too far to say, that the State governments, with the people on their side, would be able to repel the danger. The highest number to which, according to the best computation, a standing army can be carried in any country, does not exceed one hundredth of the whole number of souls; or one twenty-fifth part of the number able to bear arms. This proportion would not yield, in the United States, an army of more than twenty-five or thirty thousand men. To these would be opposed a militia amounting to near half a million of citizens with arms in their hands, officered by men chosen from among themselves, fighting for their common liberties, and united and conducted by governments (i.e. State governments) possessing their affections and confidence. It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops


    It was even clarified in the Dred Scott decision, when referring to slaves having the rights and immunities of citizens:
    ...and it would give them the full liberty of speech in public and in private upon all subjects upon which its own citizens might speak; to hold public meetings upon political affairs, and to keep and carry arms wherever they went.
    While these cases are indeed State Supreme Court, they clearly express the INDIVIDUAL right to own and CARRY weapons, not a collective right subject to laws and restrictions.
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