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    Question In the right to shoot the attacker?

    I just watched this video on Tru TV.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu0O1VNZWeE


    The victim got received a broken eye socket, was knocked unconcious, and a broken nose. Is a victim justified in using deadly force in this situation?


    I live in Michigan, and House Bill 5143 states.

    Under the proposed Self-Defense Act, an
    individual who had not or was not engaged
    in the commission of a crime could use
    deadly force against another person,
    anywhere he or she had the legal right to
    be, with no duty to retreat, if the individual
    honestly and reasonably believed that the
    use of deadly force was necessary to
    prevent either of the following:
    -- The imminent death of, or imminent
    great bodily harm to, himself or herself or
    another individual.
    -- The imminent sexual assault of himself or
    herself or another individual.

    Would you consider that assult, and the damage to the victim to be imminent great bodily harm?

    Thanks for your input.

    Peter

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    The video's gone. But with any beating, especially one with injuries like that, I would consider that a justifiable use of deadly force.

    While you are on the ground getting beaten like that do you know if they will stop with a black eye, or just a broken eye socket? How do you know when they will stop? One good blow to the head can cause death. Think about it.
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    Especially when your law states no need to retreat (is possible). Here in Ohio the law states one must attempt to retreat/flee if it is safe to do so before engaging in any self defense act (unless in your home, then there is no retreat requirement).

    Now me personally, if someone attacks me, I'm not gonna run away unless thats my only hope for survival. If someone is hitting me harder enough to break bones and cause possible brain injury, I will shoot them without a second thought.

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    The story and video

    http://www.newsnet5.com/news/4213293/detail.html


    Here's a link to the story on the news the video is on the left.

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    I think that all those men in that video who watched this beating and did nothing to help should be shot. Freaking cowards.:mad:
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    We're not allowed to use deadly force full stop. We're expected to grin and bear it. Merry old England, eh? :mad:

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