Stop Thief! GM's OnStar system could soon halt stolen cars

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Wait... you think I'm a liberal? You really freaking think that :confused:

Now explain why you think I'm crazy or paranoid? I'm curious, I really think you just kind of jumped on the band wagon.

Well, right off the bat, you think people are calling you a liberal. If you read the statement, ROS says he's got much more pressing concerns than OnStar.

Secondly, I'm assuming that you pay for services such as cell phone, internet, cable television, power, etc. All of those companies have *gasp* low-wage customer service representatives, that can screw up you service and in turn affect your credit. They have the ability to turn your services on and off, cancel them, and change your services. You're saying that you wouldn't trust an OnStar representative to disable your stolen vehicle at the request of a pursuing police officer, but you offer no qualms about the low-wage earning folks that work for those other companies.

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Well, right off the bat, you think people are calling you a liberal. If you read the statement, ROS says he's got much more pressing concerns than OnStar.

Secondly, I'm assuming that you pay for services such as cell phone, internet, cable television, power, etc. All of those companies have *gasp* low-wage customer service representatives, that can screw up you service and in turn affect your credit. They have the ability to turn your services on and off, cancel them, and change your services. You're saying that you wouldn't trust an OnStar representative to disable your stolen vehicle at the request of a pursuing police officer, but you offer no qualms about the low-wage earning folks that work for those other companies.

No thats not what I said. I said he insinuated that I was some weirdo, and I still believe he did. Thats a matter of opinion and I can agree to disagree with you.

But your analogy useing credit and other novelties is ridiculous. First off, READ my first post, I said the idea was cool and that I liked it. How did that get passed you?:rolleyes:

My concern is with the people in charge of the systems capable of doing this. Typically people in charge of call centers aren't high on the education list, and the hiring process usually has low requirements. I simply don't like the idea of some part time kid being able to shut off my engine on a whim. Now if they had a dedicated team that was trained to work with the police, then that would be great, but you can't honestly think having untrained service representatives assist in high speed chases is a good thing, or having them blindly bring a car to halt.

You also contend that I'm a hypocrite because I allow other low wage workers to have an impact on my credit. The first problem with that is that they could somehow effect my safety, my credit rating isn't going to get me killed. It isn't going to blow up my engine either. I can fix my credit, I can stay on top of my credit, and my "cable" going out isn't nearly as big of a problem as my engine cutting out on the freeway.

Again, because people are too lazy to read I will say it again, cool idea, remote deactivation and all, but untrained call center operators working with police on potential high speed chases sounds silly.

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No thats not what I said. I said he insinuated that I was some weirdo, and I still believe he did. Thats a matter of opinion and I can agree to disagree with you.

No, you said: "Wait... you think I'm a liberal? You really freaking think that :confused:"

But your analogy useing credit and other novelties is ridiculous. First off, READ my first post, I said the idea was cool and that I liked it. How did that get passed you?:rolleyes:

I'm not responding to your original post. I never said that you disliked the idea. I'm addressing your ludicris paranoia isses. How did that get passed YOU?:rolleyes: How is it ridiculous? You base all your paranoia on "some minimum wage receptionist." The very same people I used in my analogy. How can you be afraid of one company, and not others?

My concern is with the people in charge of the systems capable of doing this. Typically people in charge of call centers aren't high on the education list, and the hiring process usually has low requirements. I simply don't like the idea of some part time kid being able to shut off my engine on a whim.

Right. I'm sure OnStar isn't going to provide any training or have any policies about when and how the service is used. It's just going to be a high school dropout that works 12 hours a week flipping a switch whenever he feels like.

NOW who's being ridiculous?

Now if they had a dedicated team that was trained to work with the police, then that would be great, but you can't honestly think having untrained service representatives assist in high speed chases is a good thing, or having them blindly bring a car to halt.

Had you read the article, I'm sure you would have seen that the vehicle is not brought blindly to a halt.

"This technology will basically remove the control of the horsepower from the thief," Huber said. "Everything else in the vehicle works. The steering works. The brakes work."

GM is still exploring the possibility of having the car give a recorded verbal warning before it stops moving. A voice would tell the driver through the radio speakers that police will stop the car, Huber said, and the car's emergency flashers would go on.

"If the thief does nothing else it will coast to a stop. But they can drive off to the side of the road," Huber said.

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OnStar would call police and tell them a stolen car's whereabouts.

Then, if officers see the car in motion and judge it can be stopped safely, they can tell OnStar operators, who will send the car a signal via cell phone to slow it to a halt.

Again, because people are too lazy to read I will say it again, cool idea, remote deactivation and all, but untrained call center operators working with police on potential high speed chases sounds silly.

How about you read the article in the original post before you accuse people of being too lazy to read? You're still focused on this notion that there will be no training for the representatives using this service? Where is your basis for this? Where in the article does it state that they plan on just adding the button to the call center's computer system and not bother to train anyone how to use it?

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No, you said: "Wait... you think I'm a liberal? You really freaking think that :confused:"



I'm not responding to your original post. I never said that you disliked the idea. I'm addressing your ludicris paranoia isses. How did that get passed YOU?:rolleyes: How is it ridiculous? You base all your paranoia on "some minimum wage receptionist." The very same people I used in my analogy. How can you be afraid of one company, and not others?



Right. I'm sure OnStar isn't going to provide any training or have any policies about when and how the service is used. It's just going to be a high school dropout that works 12 hours a week flipping a switch whenever he feels like.

NOW who's being ridiculous?



Had you read the article, I'm sure you would have seen that the vehicle is not brought blindly to a halt.



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How about you read the article in the original post before you accuse people of being too lazy to read? You're still focused on this notion that there will be no training for the representatives using this service? Where is your basis for this? Where in the article does it state that they plan on just adding the button to the call center's computer system and not bother to train anyone how to use it?

Your right bud, I'm an idiot and you are superior to me, you win. This all started when I said I like the idea and casually mentioned the idea that someone had that much control over my car spooked me. Then the bashing began, next time I'll fall in line and repeat what the others have said.