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    Funny letter in response to a Pennsylvania DNR letter

    Gotta read DNR's letter first. Real or fake its pretty good. Dam Beavers!


    This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan DeVries by the Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Quality, State of Pennsylvania. This guy's response is hilarious, but read the State's letter before you get to the response letter.

    SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County

    Dear Mr. DeVries:

    It has come to the attention of the Department of Environmental Quality that there has been recent unauthorized activity on the above referenced parcel of property. You have been certified as the legal landowner and/or contractor who did the following unauthorized activity:

    Construction and maintenance of two wood debris dams across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.

    A permit must be issued prior to the start of this type of activity.

    A review of the Department's files shows that no permits have been issued. Therefore, the Department has determined that this activity is in violation of Part 301, InlandLakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.!

    The Department has been informed that one or both of the dams partially failed during a recent rain event, causing debris and flooding at downstream locations. We find that dams of this nature are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted. The Department therefore orders you to cease and desist all activities at this location, and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition by removing all wood and brush forming the dams from the stream channel. All restoration work shall be completed no later than January 31, 2006.

    Please notify this office when the restoration has been completed so that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by our staff.

    Failure to comply with this request or any further unauthorized activity on the site may result in this case being referred for elevated enforcement action..

    We anticipate and would appreciate your full cooperation in this matter. Please feel free to contact me at this office if you have any questions.

    Sincerely,
    David L. Price
    District Representative and Water Management Division.


    And the response...

    Re: DEQ File No. 97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec. 20; Lycoming County

    Dear Mr. Price,

    Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed to me to respond to. I am the legal landowner but not the Contractor at 2088 Dagget Lane, Trout Run, Pennsylvania.

    A couple of beavers are in the (State unauthorized) process of constructing and maintaining two wood "debris" dams across the outlet stream of my Spring Pond. While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise their dam project, I think they would be highly offended that you call their skillful use of natures building materials "debris." I would like to challenge your department to attempt to emulate their dam project any time and/or any place you choose. I believe I can safely state there is no way you could ever match their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their dam ingenuity, their dam persistence, their dam determination and/or their dam work ethic.

    As to your request, I do not think the beavers are aware that they must first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of this type of dam activity.

    My first dam question to you is:
    (1) Are you trying to discriminate against my Spring Pond Beavers.
    (2) Or do you require all beavers throughout this State to conform to said dam request?

    If you are not discriminating against these particular beavers, through the Freedom of Information Act, I request completed copies of all those other applicable beaver dam permits that have been issued. Perhaps we will see if there really is a dam violation of Part 301, InlandLakes and Streams, of the Natural Resource and Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994, being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the Pennsylvania Compiled Laws, annotated.

    I have several concerns. My first concern is; aren't the beavers entitled to legal representation? The Spring Pond Beavers are financially destitute and are unable to pay for said representation -- so the State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer. The Department's dam concern that either one or both of the dams failed during a recent rain event, causing flooding, is proof that this is a natural occurrence, which the Department is required to protect. In other words, we should leave the Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them and calling their dam names.

    If you want the stream "restored" to a dam free-flow condition please contact the beavers -- but if you are going to arrest them, they obviously did not pay any attention to your dam letter, they being unable to read English.

    In my humble opinion, the Spring Pond Beavers have a right to build their unauthorized dams as long as the sky is blue, the grass is green and water flows downstream. They have more dam rights than I do to live and enjoy Spring Pond. If the Department of Natural Resources and Environmental Protection lives up to its name, it should protect the natural resources (Beavers) and the environment (Beavers' Dams).

    So, as far as the beavers and I are concerned, this dam case can be referred for more elevated enforcement action right now. Why wait until 1/31/2006? The Spring Pond Beavers may be under the dam ice then and there will be no way for you or your dam staff to contact/harass them then.

    In conclusion, I would like to bring to your attention to a real environmental quality, health, problem in the area. It is the bears! Bears are actually defecating in our woods. I definitely believe you should be persecuting the defecating bears and leave the beavers alone.

    If you are going to investigate the beaver dam, watch your step! The bears are not careful where they dump!

    Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office.


    THANK YOU.
    RYAN DEVRIES & THE DAM BEAVERS

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    gotta spread some rep around....but this is hilarious

    "Being unable to comply with your dam request, and being unable to contact you on your dam answering machine, I am sending this response to your dam office."

    Love the use of dam:D

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    Rep sent..that was great:D

    *Edit* Must spread rep around blah blah blah
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    I don't know what's dumber, people having dumb friends or people pretending to have dumb friends when in fact it is them who are the dummies and are making it out as someone else so we don't think they are dumb.

    How dumb is that ?

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    The funny thing is that it really did happen. :p

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefhuntr View Post
    The funny thing is that it really did happen. :p

    http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm
    Yeah I checked yesterday and verified it ;)

    But it did happen in Michigan. Damn Pennsylvania trying to be like us. Next thing they will do is start putting red bubbles on their troopers cars...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sierra View Post
    Got him for both of you.
    Me too! :D

    The irony, is he would have bben cited for tearing down those dam dams...beaver dams are protected.

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    Speaking of beavers, being a San Diego city boy, I took a trip to Kentuckey to see some family. I was fishing out on Berkeley Lake with my uncle when I noticed on land some fairly large animals. My first thought was someone's small dog got loose, turned out to be a beaver. Those things can get huge !!

    Are they dangerous ? I suppose anything with teeth could be dangerous but has there been any recording of "beaver attacks" ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbillplod View Post
    I don't know what's dumber, people having dumb friends or people pretending to have dumb friends when in fact it is them who are the dummies and are making it out as someone else so we don't think they are dumb.

    How dumb is that ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtysubie View Post
    Speaking of beavers, being a San Diego city boy, I took a trip to Kentuckey to see some family. I was fishing out on Berkeley Lake with my uncle when I noticed on land some fairly large animals. My first thought was someone's small dog got loose, turned out to be a beaver. Those things can get huge !!

    Are they dangerous ? I suppose anything with teeth could be dangerous but has there been any recording of "beaver attacks" ?
    You ever hear about the time a beaver bit off a nipple? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey9019 View Post
    You ever hear about the time a beaver bit off a nipple?
    :D I totally forgot about that one. I remember that ..."He bit it off !" Is Jeff Foxworthy's cousin the only recorded attack ?
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldbillplod View Post
    I don't know what's dumber, people having dumb friends or people pretending to have dumb friends when in fact it is them who are the dummies and are making it out as someone else so we don't think they are dumb.

    How dumb is that ?

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    Got him as well. That was too Dam funny. :D
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    Anyone seen Vegas Vacation? There is a scene from that movie that would fit nicely with this story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey9019 View Post
    Next thing they will do is start putting red bubbles on their troopers cars...
    Man let's hope not, we don't need two departments in this country with dam ugly cars!












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    Quote Originally Posted by dirtysubie View Post
    Are they dangerous ? I suppose anything with teeth could be dangerous but has there been any recording of "beaver attacks" ?
    They are not dangerous. The worst they will do id slap their tails on top of the water to try to scare you off.

    I have been in a beaver filled lake hunting some frogs and the beavers dont want anything to do with humans.

    (Yes I hunt frogs. Frog legs are the best eating meat there is. Since I am not a vegan........)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chiefhuntr View Post
    They are not dangerous. The worst they will do id slap their tails on top of the water to try to scare you off.

    I have been in a beaver filled lake hunting some frogs and the beavers dont want anything to do with humans.

    (Yes I hunt frogs. Frog legs are the best eating meat there is. Since I am not a vegan........)
    No attacks???? How about this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOI7KejIng:D

    (yes I know I posted it before, but it fits soooo well here)

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