Taser taser taser DEPLOY! I can hear you breathing...heh

[Hockey9019]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6c1_1172362081&p=1



Female DUI suspect isn't too good at following directions


Gotta love the end: I can hear you breathing




(We need a media section for all these videos and pics on RP)

[Darin]

I may be the minority here but why did they Taser her? Sure she wasn't following directions. She wasn't fighting. She pulled away but I didn't see her becoming combative. Plus she was handcuffed.There was 3 Officers in the room. Why not go hands on and sit her down? I really didn't see a need to Taser the handcuffed woman since there was 3 Officer to take control of her.

[greenlead]

I may be the minority here but why did they Taser her? Sure she wasn't following directions. She wasn't fighting. She pulled away but I didn't see her becoming combative. Plus she was handcuffed.There was 3 Officers in the room. Why not go hands on and sit her down? I really didn't see a need to Taser the handcuffed woman since there was 3 Officer to take control of her.

I think I'm with you on this one. They'd already gone "hands-on" when the Taser was deployed. I'm pretty sure it would've been a simple matter of continuing the hold to assist her to the ground.

Of course, it's entirely possible that officer saw something that wasn't visible to us.

[Hockey9019]

Yup. Could have been something happend before they brought her into the booking room.



Maybe thats how they roll down there??? :D

[Paul Hartwig]

I may be the minority here but why did they Taser her? Sure she wasn't following directions. She wasn't fighting. She pulled away but I didn't see her becoming combative. Plus she was handcuffed.There was 3 Officers in the room. Why not go hands on and sit her down? I really didn't see a need to Taser the handcuffed woman since there was 3 Officer to take control of her.

I am with you as well. I wouldn't have tasered yet. But who knows how combative she had been prior to this and they knew it was the start of it again. Maybe it took 4 officers in the street to get her controlled. Anywho love the head off the chair thing. :eek:

[Coastie 585]

Here they can't taser a handcuffed prisioner, no matter what.

[FoodStampz]

My question is why was she handcuffed in front and not in back?

[Hockey9019]

My question is why was she handcuffed in front and not in back?

My question to you is why didn't you call me? ;)


Did you get in touch with her?

[Because I Can]

I don't get why they tasered her either. IMHO, even if there was an issue with her earlier, she was not fighting now, just pulling away from the officer. There were three officers, I would have thought they could have convinced her to comply without the taser.

In my department we always have a review board after someone gets tasered, which isn't very often, just to make sure they followed policy. The officer here might be well within his department policy.

[Cat_Doc]

I may be the minority here but why did they Taser her?

I seriously doubt you are in the minority here, at least amongst reasonable and prudent persons.

This action would be extremely difficult, if not impossible, to defend in an excessive force complaint.

[MattW]

I'm pretty sure on this, but correct me if I'm wrong: I heard the Officers in the video got suspended/fired, and the dept. got the hell sued out of them.

[Hockey9019]

I'm pretty sure on this, but correct me if I'm wrong: I heard the Officers in the video got suspended/fired, and the dept. got the hell sued out of them.

Without proof I can't believe that. Sorry....

[Hockey9019]

Matt- I apologize. A simple search found this

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_articl...?storyid=59556

SHEFFIELD -- Officer Edward Long was trained in the use of the department issued Tasers but his superiors say the deployment of one in this case was dead wrong.
By most accounts, the suspect, Kristina Fretter, was belligerent and nasty but she was also handcuffed and had her back to the officer.

Still, Long fired 50,000 volts into her body.

The arrest of Fretter was not easy. Three times she slipped out of her handcuffs. She was not cooperative and downright mean.

After a week long internal investigation, Mayor Darlene Ondercin fired rookie officer Long

"She wasn't screaming," Ondercin said. "She wasn't kicking. She wasn't moving around absolutely nothing."

The mayor followed the recommendation of Long's boss, Chief Mike Gurich.

"She was acting out but not to the level of Taser usage," Gurich said.

Sheffield Taser policy is consistent with other departments across the country reviewed by Target 3. Only when a handcuffed suspect is acting out violently should police consider using a Taser.

"They could have used hands-on techniques, as far as prisoner escort positions if it [was] where she was too combative they could have used joint manipulation," Gurich said.

Officer Long told his chief that he feared for the safety of the female dispatcher, sent into the booking room to search Fretter.

"If she, [Fretter] broke away from Todd, [the second officer], she could slam her up against the wall and hit her head or something," Long said.

Target 3 attempted to get the officer's side of the story at his Elyria home. Long's father turned us away at the door.

Even though he was trained two years ago, this was the first time he shot his Taser. And, apparently, his last.

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_articl...?storyid=59556

SHEFFIELD OHIO

[Sierra]

Saw this today.

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/11330139/detail.html


SHEFFIELD VILLAGE, Ohio -- A Sheffield Village officer involved in a Taser gun incident is off the police force.

Officer Edward Long was charged with excessive use of force in connection with using a Taser gun on a drunken driving suspect, who then fell and cracked her head.

Long agreed to resign so he wouldn't have a termination on his record.

The suspect, Kristina Fretter, agreed to drop her case against Sheffield Village in exchange for having the case against her dismissed.



There is a link on the page that refers to a story posted 112106. It says Long was terminated, this (dated 032207) says he resigned. The previous story also says in his two years on he had 3 accidents, served a suspension and was facing another.

[LA5150]

:eek:

Racking up that kind of discipline record in two years, in addition to this?! Maybe the suspensions are traffic related, but still.....