Police OC Drunk

[Valor55]

The OC will work but the more alcohol or drugs in someone's system, the longer it takes. In the video the guy was having trouble keeping his eyes open so you know it's working, he's just not feeling much pain.

They spent too much time negotiating with him. After the first couple applications someone should have used a baton to try and get the guys legs out from under him. With three guys they probably could have taken him down pretty easily.

[H.R. Cufnstuf]

I also heard that people with dark skin dark eyes and dark hair doesnt have that much effect because of the pigmentation of their skin....

That's somewhat true. We have one African-American guy who's biggest complaint about having to recertify is not wanting to do baton drills :p

[webjeep]

That's a tactic Dallas needs to adopt!!! - Do you also have a solution for them urinating in doorways & halls? I was thinking of developing a product that's like hooking electrified doggy fence chargers to metal plates on the floors that they urinate on :D

Luckily they all stay away from where I work - I'd be temped to start some R&D - lol.

You'd probably have a few problems with that one as the urine stream tends to separate as it nears the ground thus preventing a continuous route for conduction (see mythbusters 3rd rail experiement.)

Flash bangs may work :D

Hmm, but then you may have another problem besides urine...

[getitdone]

The OC will work but the more alcohol or drugs in someone's system, the longer it takes. In the video the guy was having trouble keeping his eyes open so you know it's working, he's just not feeling much pain.

They spent too much time negotiating with him. After the first couple applications someone should have used a baton to try and get the guys legs out from under him. With three guys they probably could have taken him down pretty easily.

I was thinking the same thing when I watched it. They talked WAY too long. I know here they either would have yanked him off the bench after not obeying instructions, or most certainly taken care of him at the point that he stood up and walked away.

[scarlet_tunic]

Loved the pseudo-karate hand signs he was doing....maybe he wanted to hypnotize the officers into leaving? :D

I agree with what other's have said, where they shouldn't have let him walk away...would have been the perfect opportunity to take him down to the ground, and escort him out. Ahh well...armchairs aside, I know it's a lot different when you're actually in the situation, as opposed to watching it.

I do feel bad for the officer that was behind the drunk guy though....he seemed to get a real load of it sqaure on.

Question: I know this video's pretty old....but have most department's policies changed on spraying inside a building? I don't remember covering that in my OC course. In the last couple years, there's been a few school evacuations here from someone releasing OC (usually pranksters).

[Valor55]

I also heard that people with dark skin dark eyes and dark hair doesnt have that much effect because of the pigmentation of their skin....

I don't think it has much to do with skin pigmentation as it is a burning agent and irritant. When you talk about dark skinned people here it is usually folks from Central America whose diet tends to consist of a lot of jalepenos and habaneros. Folks who are used to eating a lot of that are just used to it and it won't irritate them.

There are also the random people who just aren't affected at all and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with ethnicity or diet.

[Whitebear]

I don't think it has much to do with skin pigmentation as it is a burning agent and irritant. When you talk about dark skinned people here it is usually folks from Central America whose diet tends to consist of a lot of jalepenos and habaneros. Folks who are used to eating a lot of that are just used to it and it won't irritate them.

There are also the random people who just aren't affected at all and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with ethnicity or diet.

I am saying that because I am working with native people.. and when I was at the police academy 70% of the group was native and white people like me it was terrible the burning sensation. But for the native people, it was like if they were receiving shampoo in the eyes. there was at least 10 native who didn't feel any pain. And where I am working it's only native and 50 to 60% of the time it doesn't work on theme

[lapdbandit]

i have yet to OC anything but a dog, that stuff messes me up even if im just in the vicinity of it. I just take em to the ground if i have to.