American! Ya I'll Wave that Flag!

[Sniper.308]

OK Folks

I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country. Then, all this stuff you heard about American not wanting to fight, wanting to stay out of the war is a lot of horse dung. Americans traditionally love to fight. All real Americans love the sting of battle.
Gen. Patton

A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
Gen George S. Patton

If a man strikes someone with an iron object so that he dies, he is a murder; the murderer shall be put to death
God - Numbers 35:16

Although I am a combat vet I have to say that the hardest longest fight continues on the streets of America every day. May God continue to bless my brother and sisters... The Warrior Class

Train hard and fight harder, don't ever let that Bastard take you from us.

[99TAC]

ummmmm...rrrrrright.

Originally posted by Sniper.308
If a man strikes someone with an iron object so that he dies, he is a murder; the murderer shall be put to death
God - Numbers 35:16

I hope you know God never wrote in the bible.

[Sniper.308]

Hey 99 how are you,

Neither did Jesus, Patton or myself. But that doesn't mean its not truely an inspired work.

"but the word of the Lord stands forever." And this is the word that was preached to you.
-1 Peter 1:25

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God in the beginning.
-John 1:1

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.
-John 1:14

Unlike what this may appear, I am not here to preach. I've been a LEO for 12 years now, Most of my time was spent inner cities (meaning Southeast DC). I do not have a soft approach to LE or how I do it. I just prefer to turn to the Bible instead of the Bottle. I do not preach to any body on the job (I'm quite sure I'd be one of the last ones they would ask about anything Bible related) unless asked, then I only can offer my opinion as a Christen and a LEO. My apologies I didn’t mean to offend.

“ If everyone is thinking alike, then somebody isn't
thinking.”

[Mr_M_Kelly]

Originally posted by Sniper.308
(meaning Southeast DC).

are you still working in DC? I plan on applying with the department pretty soon. I have already applied with MDSP and VSP. Do you have anything to share about your experience with the department?

Mike

[99TAC]

I'm not offended whatsoever, It just looked like you were quoting a bible passage and saying it was and entry by God, that's all. I'm glad that you use religion as a reliable source of confort.

[Scruit]

It never ceases to amaze me that the pilgrims came and founded this new land to avoid religious persecution - yet now I find myself pledging allegiance to god??

How quickly Americans will ignore thier own constitution when it serves them.


I am not telling you you cannot love god, or accept Jesus as your lord and saviour. I'm just telling you you can't force me to.

Or indictrinate my kids to do so by your "one nation under god" and the ten commandment sin state buidings and 'In god we trust" on my money. If I choose to not belkieve ing god, and to rasie my kids that way, then that is my right as an American to make that choice. My family has given it's share of fathers and brothers to wars (one right now in Basra) some who didn't come back, yet for all the freedoms I thought we were fighting for, my constituionally protected freedom of religion is denied to me by the state endorsement of God everywhere I turn.

[Mr_M_Kelly]

Originally posted by Scruit
It never ceases to amaze me that the pilgrims came and founded this new land to avoid religious persecution - yet now I find myself pledging allegiance to god??

How quickly Americans will ignore thier own constitution when it serves them.


I am not telling you you cannot love god, or accept Jesus as your lord and saviour. I'm just telling you you can't force me to.

Or indictrinate my kids to do so by your "one nation under god" and the ten commandment sin state buidings and 'In god we trust" on my money. If I choose to not belkieve ing god, and to rasie my kids that way, then that is my right as an American to make that choice. My family has given it's share of fathers and brothers to wars (one right now in Basra) some who didn't come back, yet for all the freedoms I thought we were fighting for, my constituionally protected freedom of religion is denied to me by the state endorsement of God everywhere I turn.

Umm, yeah, please don't even open this can of worms( that is my phrase of the day, in case you read the "share something" post). I don't believe in a god or practice any form of religion but I will say the pledge of alligance and so can everyone else. If you dont want to, that is fine, just dont say anything.

As far as money, again, its tradition, give it a rest. Was it Thomas Jefferson (excuse my ignorance if I'm wrong) who was an athiest (didn't believe in god) but he did not compain about "in god we trust".

In short, just respect tradition. Its not tradition like slavery or abusing women, which I can understand people complaining about.

Mike

[zander_zye]

Thomas Jefferson was not an athiest.

And contrary to popular beleif, the Pilgrims were hardly the oppressed - in a lot of communities in England they were the oppressors - (They were in direct conflict with the Anglican Church). After they arrived in the "new land" they oppressed the indians (forget the minomer that the Indians and Pilgrims were "friends" - that was one of histories forgotten facts).

I am not a Christian, but I could care less about the words "In God We Trust" or the Pledge of Alligence. I think we have more important issues to deal with. What bothers me is Bush's biblical influence in government (what one religious schlolar referred to as a third rate knowledge of the bible with a first rate power of authority)

[Sniper.308]

Hey, I have a first rate knowledge of the bible and a third rate power of authority!!!

I have to agree with you guys on this one. From the other side of the coin, I am a Christian and do believe that Jesus is my personal savior. Just as well, I don't want the gay coalition marching down my street demanding that I accept them for their sexual perversions.

God Bless America!

Love, Sniper

all men are equal in my crosshairs
-Sniper.308

[Mr_M_Kelly]

sorry, John Adams

Also Benjamin Franklin.

Mike

[zander_zye]

Originally posted by Sniper.308
Hey, I have a first rate knowledge of the bible and a third rate power of authority!!!

I have to agree with you guys on this one. From the other side of the coin, I am a Christian and do believe that Jesus is my personal savior. Just as well, I don't want the gay coalition marching down my street demanding that I accept them for their sexual perversions.

God Bless America!

Love, Sniper

all men are equal in my crosshairs
-Sniper.308

I see that you are afraid of your own sexuality. Does labelling a homosexual a pervert make you feel like more of a man? Perhaps deep inside you have feelings for men but are too afraid to show it.

I will go out on a limb on this one, but with your attitude, you don't deserve to wear a badge. Please quit - your attitudes towards the citizens you are sworn to protect show a lack of respect. In uniform, your duties to your oath take presidence over your love of god. Obviously you are not worthy.

[txinvestigator1]

Originally posted by zander_zye
I see that you are afraid of your own sexuality. Does labelling a homosexual a pervert make you feel like more of a man? Perhaps deep inside you have feelings for men but are too afraid to show it.

I will go out on a limb on this one, but with your attitude, you don't deserve to wear a badge. Please quit - your attitudes towards the citizens you are sworn to protect show a lack of respect. In uniform, your duties to your oath take presidence over your love of god. Obviously you are not worthy.

Since when do you get to decide who deserves to wear a badge and who does not? You lie, you are not a libertarian, but a lefty democrat.

Homsexuality is a perversion, it is against nature and an abomination against God. You show typical left behavior. If questioned, attack and name call. Did sniper ever say he would not protect a homosexual, or would act differently towards one one duty? Let me answer; NO he did not.

You should quit, as you would label and attack anyone who holds a different point of view.

Don't worry Zander, I still pray for your soul.

[zander_zye]

It is the people's right to determine who wears a badge and who does not.

Why can't you just accept someone for what they are? Are you too little of a man to do that? Do you think that homosexuals are homosexuals because they want to be? If you do, then you need to take some advanced biology, because there is a correlation between genenics and homosexuality.

You claim to be a Christian, you want tolerance, but only when it applies to your belief structure.

I think the real perverts are the perversions of biblical studies done by the likes of Billy Graham, Falwell, Robertson, and others who tout the bible and its teachings to line their own pockets at the expense of others. Tell me, if homosexuality were against god's will, then how to do you explain two Popes being gay?

I am not gay, but I accept people for what they are. I used to work with a man that wore a dress (he wasn't gay either, just wore a dress) - was it odd? Of course - but he did his job and I did mine. That is all that really matters. The problem I have with Sniper is that his bigotry under the color of authority is no better than calling a black a n--- on the job. Not acceptable.

[Nitey]

Is sniper for real or just a really bad stereotype?

[txinvestigator1]

Why can't you just accept someone for what they are? Are you too little of a man to do that?

Oh boy, grade school antics. What do you mean by accept? All of your biology talk is BS.

If by acceptance you mean condoning then NO I DO NOT. Do I harass and treat homosexuals differently, no. But I disapprove of their lifestyle.

You claim to be a Christian, you want tolerance, but only when it applies to your belief structure

I never "claimed" to be a Christian. I am one, but I cannot claim it, I just am it. How do my beliefs fly in the face of tolerance? What do I have to do to show tolerance? Accept it, say, "its ok, do whatever you want? That is what you would like, but sorry.

Tell me, if homosexuality were against god's will, then how to do you explain two Popes being gay?

Umm, pedophilia is against Gods will, but priests have been convicted of it. That just shows that there is evil. Or should we just "accept" and be tolerant of that too?

I am not gay, but I accept people for what they are.

And you point is? Did I or anyone else say we did not accept it? Again, does that mean you'll be taking warm showers with your gay friend?

he did his job and I did mine. That is all that really matters

Really? So how two-faced are you? How do you say that when you told sniper that he should quit because he does not think as you? Are you not being intolerant and unaccepting of his opinions? Aren't you saying that as long as he does his job, his beliefs, morals and opinions matter not? Being a little incongruent, aren't you?