Resisting arrest

[hitnrun]

As was said before, in CA, you can resist/interfere with police officer/investigation (148 PC) and then there is the violent resist which would be a felony (69 PC).

[JD45]

The ACLU pocket guide points out that while identifying oneself to police in a random situation isn't necessary, misidentifying oneself is certainly illegal.

It also points out that generally cooperation is key. Duh.
-Garrett

Describe 'random'

[massgrunt]

I would cooperate no matter how much of an *** a cop was being (never really happened to me, but I know it does at times), because he has all the cards, you ain't winning that one.

[skiingman]

I would cooperate no matter how much of an *** a cop was being (never really happened to me, but I know it does at times), because he has all the cards, you ain't winning that one.

Good point...

There are exceptions...but you are correct. In 99.999 percent of cases, it makes no difference whether or not a cop is following the law or being reasonable or being polite or whatever. Like you say, he has the cards.
-Garrett

[skiingman]

Describe 'random'

If I'm walking down the street and a cop walks up and demands I identify myself, I can deny him.

If he says hes looking for someone matching my description, who is connected with some crime or whatever, I can't.

Like noted above correctly, I'd probably just identify myself in 99.99999 percent of situations. I'm not a lawbreaker, so why not?
-Garrett

EDIT: I do have a problem with cops going on "fishing expeditions". Not much I can do about it though. I have been asked for a vehicle search, denied it, and got no more requests. He simply dropped the topic.

[massgrunt]

What is that .00001 time that you wouldn't? If you have nothing to hide, how are you not going to make things worse for no benefit?

[skiingman]

The card in question...in text format.

http://archive.aclu.org/issues/crimi...tcardtext.html

[skiingman]

What is that .00001 time that you wouldn't? If you have nothing to hide, how are you not going to make things worse for no benefit?

Hmm, very good question.

Once I was walking down a street with a RedBull in my hand. A cop ran up and grabbed me. He noticed I was holding a RedBull, not a beer, then said:

"I see you are drinking a RedBull tonight."

"Yes sir, it gives you wings."

"You know, you shouldn't be out here drinking things on the street. We have no way of knowing whether or not you have an open alcoholic beverage. I had to stop and check"

"Have a nice night officer."

I wasn't going to get into it with him...but if I want to walk around town drinking a RedBull...I'm going to walk around town drinking a redbull. If that particular guy asked for my name at that point, I probably would have been an ******* about it and pulled out my cellphone and called my attorney.

You are right, this would not make things better. It would, however, make me not feel like a tool. Standing up for ones rights is important to some people.
-Garrett

EDIT: When I'm thirty I'll probably laugh at the ideology expressed above. With youth comes exuberance, rebellion, and sometimes plain old poor assessment of risk and reward.

Related topic: Last I checked, cops don't have to identify themselves to the public when asked either. Well, I guess you do, but I don't think you have to give your name...just some identifier like your badge or whatever.

When the day comes where I can't walk down the street drinking a softdrink because it annoys the police, I'm moving.

[scott715us]

Funny this issue came up, just arrested one yesterday for criminal impersonation. Gave me a false name and DOB because he knew he had an outstanding warrant and a revoked license. Of course the contact made was because of a traffic violation. A little investigating on scene led me to believe he was lying about who he was. I was going to book him for "drivers license not on person" just to get to the jail and get some fingerprints, but he gave up his real name once he realized he was going to jail. Of course I still nailed him with the criminal impersonation and driving on revoked charge aside from the outstanding warrant. :D

[skiingman]

Funny this issue came up, just arrested one yesterday for criminal impersonation. Gave me a false name and DOB because he knew he had an outstanding warrant and a revoked license. Of course the contact made was because of a traffic violation. A little investigating on scene led me to believe he was lying about who he was. I was going to book him for "drivers license not on person" just to get to the jail and get some fingerprints, but he gave up his real name once he realized he was going to jail. Of course I still nailed him with the criminal impersonation and driving on revoked charge aside from the outstanding warrant. :D

Yep. Thats the kind of stuff that people should go to jail for.

I wonder which states can pull up photolicenses in the cruisers yet? The technology exists. Should help quite a bit in identifying these liars.
-Garrett

[bpd35]

That would be Failure to Identify which is a Misdemeanor in Indiana.

However we have several types of resisting .

Fleeing -- ( Non Violent )
Physical -- ( Violent )
Physical with injury ( need i state it ? )-Felony
Resisiting using a vehicle - Felony
and the list goes on and on.