norm there is an ad on tv you need to see.

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it's something like

www.georgiansforgunsafety.com

they have tv ad's on just saw one. some ATL Braves player was a spokesman.

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georgians for gun safety
c/o Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
100 Edgewood Ave. NE, Room 1008
Atlanta, GA 30303
afccy@bellsouth.net

Phone: 404-527-7426
Fax: 404-527-7382

[Norm357]

Yeah I saw that. Do a google. They are funded by HCI. Just more ignorant idiots.

[warlock]

The statistics they quoted aren't very meaningful.

What designated a gunstore as corrupt? As long as you are a law-abiding citizen, and follow the rules in place for the ownership of firearms...how is it up to the gun dealers to play cop? People should understand its a business like any other.

Since you posted this, whats your take on the issue?

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it's not hard to find, but what do you think Warlock

[Norm357]

Hey David, lemme show you how far back I traced these jokers.


"Georgians For Gun Safety"
Appears to be a state level version of
the group that calls themselves "Americans for Gun Safety".

This Atlanta front group is funded from outside sources to
attempt to manipulate Georgia Public policy on
Guns and Gun ownership.

{Note: The money trail backword is from:
1)Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth,
Ms. Alice Johnson.
2) then something called Join Together
3) which is part of Boston University, School of Public health
4) funding ($$$$$) is from
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to the
Boston University School of Public Health.
5) In 1996, Join Together broadened its scope to include
gun violence prevention, supported by a grant from the
Joyce Foundation.
6) Additional funding for the GUN violence project was
awarded in 2001 by the
David Bohnett Foundation.



The Georgians for Gun Safety are part of something called the

"Join Together" organization.

This is the web address:

www.jointogether.org/home/



Join Together is part of Boston University,
School of Public Health

www.bu.edu/bulletins/sph/
________________________

Join Together
One Appleton Street 4th floor
Boston, MA 02116-5223

Tel: 617-437-1500
Fax: 617-437-9394

General e-mail address: info@jointogether.org

Staff of Join Together:

Pamela Anderson
Director of Operations

Susan Aromaa
Web Content Manager/
Join Together Online

Shelley Barnes Pittman
Project Coordinator

Marc Belanger
Communications Coordinator

William Brownsberger, Esq.
Senior Criminal Justice Advisor

Janet Byrnes
Financial Administrator

Bob Curley
News Editor/
Join Together Online

Frank DiPace
Director of MIS

Janice Ford Griffin
Deputy Director

Carol Girard
Demand Treatment!
Project Manager

Anara Guard
Director of Information & Marketing

Rachel Hassinger
Operations Coordinator

Eric Helmuth
Editorial Director/
Join Together Online

Starr Herman
Information Coordinator

Ralph Hingson - Senior Advisor
{Background - Ralph Hingson chairs the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences and serves as Associate Dean for Research at Boston University,posts from which he has published over 50 manuscripts on the dangers of alcohol. { I assume this mean he is a tenured Professor}

Hingson’s published studies on the effects of “.08” legislation are taken as gospel by anti-alcohol activists in the government and nonprofit sectors — especially those at MADD.

In a 1996 research report, Hingson claimed that a nationwide “.08” standard would save “500 to 600 lives a year.”

This bogus statistic was repeated by elected officials at every level of government, including then-president Bill Clinton.

Unfortunately, Hingson’s sound bite had no demonstrable facts behind it.

A 1999 analysis by the nonpartisan U.S. General Accounting Office (GAO) looked at Hingson’s methodology and declared in its report to Congress: “The study’s conclusion that 500 to 600 fewer fatal crashes would occur annually if all states had .08 [percent] BAC laws is unfounded.”

Hingson is also the senior advisor to Join Together Online (JTO),
a web-based project of the Boston University School of Public Health.
JTO is funded by the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and was dedicated to the de-normalization of responsible consumption of adult beverages.
{Now it also targets gun ownership. }
{It also looks like he took a big hit for lying in his reports and
the only the only new thing he could get into was this JTO thing.}


Bernard John
Network Administrator/
Join Together Online

Dana King
Web Application Specialist/
Join Together Online

Roberta Leis
Program Director

Erika Miles
Demand Treatment! Editorial Coordinator

Charlie Rosenberg
Technology Manager

David Rosenbloom
Director

Norm Scotch
Senior Advisor

Sally Slovenski
Outreach/
Join Together Online

Uma MahesWari Velu
Programmer/
Join Together Online

Alfee West
Demand Treatment! Project Assistant

Sarah Witham
Project Coordinator

Ronda Zakocs
Senior Research Advisor



NOTE: Please note all the connections to the United Nations.

Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
For more information on AFCCY, contact

Alice Johnson, 404/527-7426

{Note: This is the same Alice Johnson that runs
Georgians for Gun Safety, which is part of
Boston University's (Public Health)
- "Join Together" program to "stop"
Gun and Drug violence in the USA.

Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
Jean Childs Young Symposium

“If we are to solve our social problems,
children and youth must play a pivotal role in the process.”
Jean Childs Young

The Symposium honoring the life and work of Jean Childs Young,
educator, children’s advocate and co-founder of the

Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth (AFCCY),
will begin at 3:00 PM in Atlanta City Council Chambers on Thursday June 27, 2002. The Symposium panelists will include family members, friends, colleagues and youth.
Reminiscences of the life and work of Jean Young will be given by
daughter Andrea Young;

Lucy Vance, co-founder AFCCY;

Sammy Bacote, retired educator;
civil rights leader Rev, James Orange;
Sheryl Riley Gripper, television producer;
and Mike Render, “Killah Mike,” rap recording artist and a
founding member of KIDS 4 A CHANGE, the Commission’s youth partner.

The news conference with Mayor Shirley Franklin featuring a major announcement on the future of AFCCY will begin at 5:00 PM in City Hall Atrium. The evening will end with a reception in the Old City Council Chambers.

Jean Childs Young was an educator,
civil and human rights activist
on both national and international issues,
particularly related to women and children.
In addition to chairing the

US Commission on the United Nations International Year of the Child,

forming the Mayor’s Task Force on Public Education
and creating the
Dream Jamboree College and Career Fair for Atlanta High School students (which celebrated its 20th year in April),
she was a driving force behind the establishment of

The Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth.

Jean was the wife of Andrew Young,

former UN Ambassador and Mayor of Atlanta.

The Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth
promotes the development of youth by teaching them how to
organize activities and projects for youth in the community on the
issues that affect their lives.

Since its founding by Jean and Lucy Carpenter Vance in 1991,
the AFCCY has worked on many community initiatives led
by young people including:

the first series of public hearings for children and youth held in Atlanta called “It’s Time To Listen To KIDS 4 A CHANGE” in 1992,
inspired by nationwide hearings conducted by the

US Commission on the
United Nations International Year of the Child which
Mrs. Young chaired;

two youth-organized gun give backs
that targeted young African-American {gang members} men;

the distribution of over 500 School Survival Kits to youth at Five Points MARTA station
(the kits include information on
gun safety,
{Why would Fulton county children need kits with
information on gun safety? Fulton county must be a dangerous place.}
conflict management,
health,
rape and sexual harassment);

report cards grading more than 180 teachers
(There are only 9 teachers at each of the 20 metro schools?}
on their performance in the classroom,
{Based on what criteria, as defined by whom?}

compiled from evaluations collected from
870 students at 20 metro high schools.
{Only 870 out of over 12,000 students?!
They must have all been the graduating seniors! :-o }

{Note: This in a county school sysem where 60% of the students
fail high school.}

The Commission supports youth to be leaders,
and adults to be their allies.

It works to provide opportunities for non-traditional youth leaders
{Code for mostly the 20 metro high schools various Gang leaders}
to emerge and contribute to their communities.
These youth leaders educate adults about issues youth face
and take the lead in addressing those issues.

{No one seems to be addressing why in Metro Atlanta approx. 60%
of hight school students fail to graduate. The number state-wide
is approx. 40% fail to graduate. This in a state that ranks 49th
in the nation in education standards. That means Atlanta GA and
most of GA schools are not that hard.}

For more information, contact Alice Johnson,
Commission Executive Director at 404/527-7426


"Georgians For Gun Safety"

This Atlanta front group is funded from outside/ out of state
sources to attempt to
manipulate Georgia Public policy on
Guns and Gun ownership.

Outside people and outside $$$s trying to control GA citizens,
by directly or indirectly influencing (thru lies and $$$)
our state legislators to pass laws that
the citizens of Georgia
(the people who actually live in this state)
do not want!!

{Note: The money trail backword is from:
1)Atlanta/Fulton Commission on Children and Youth,
Ms. Alice Johnson. {Note: supported with state tax $$$.)
2) then something called Join Together
3) which is part of Boston University, School of Public health
4) funding ($$$) is from
The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation to the
Boston University School of Public Health.
5) In 1996, Join Together broadened its scope to include
gun violence prevention, supported by a grant from the
Joyce Foundation.
6) Additional funding for the GUN violence project was
awarded in 2001 by the
David Bohnett Foundation. {Gay and lesbian rights group}

Doing it "for the children" method is being used. :-o

Appears to be the strategy of placing the right for you to
own firearms into the world of being a
Public Health issue,
instead of being a 2nd Amendment/individual rights issue!!!

If it is a Public Health problem then
ONLY public health officials will know how to
eliminate this new public health danger to
"the children" -
of course the only real danger
is losing your 2nd Amendment/individual rights
to privately own firearms.

Because they have now defined the "problem"
as a Public Health issue and not
a Bill of Rights / Constitutional issue.

Pretty slick, huh?? :-o

[Norm357]

Know thy enemy.

[CashCrop]

Remind me to never cross you, Norm.... :D

[Norm357]

Remind me to never cross you, Norm.... :D

Sound advice! :D