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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeG View Post
    How hot was she?
    For Michigan cops going through cellphones at traffic stops and at other times, my source is this report done by ABC News:Michigan Police Use Device to Download Cellphone Data; ACLU Objects (can't post URL so you'll have to Google it).

    For the lady who got stopped and the cop went through her cellphone, my source is my very own eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyD View Post
    For Michigan cops going through cellphones at traffic stops and at other times, my source is this report done by ABC News:Michigan Police Use Device to Download Cellphone Data; ACLU Objects (can't post URL so you'll have to Google it).

    For the lady who got stopped and the cop went through her cellphone, my source is my very own eyes.
    PM me the link.

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    OP sent me the link via PM:

    Michigan Police Use Cellphone 'Data Extraction Devices;' ACLU Objects - ABC News

    Not ONCE in that article does it mention police looking through cell phones on traffic stops.

    OP, you're a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by G35 Mass View Post
    ...you're a liar.


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    Due to certain arrests, we do seize the cell phone and have the Feds go through it for us.


    Be Safe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G35 Mass View Post
    OP sent me the link via PM:

    Michigan Police Use Cellphone 'Data Extraction Devices;' ACLU Objects - ABC News

    Not ONCE in that article does it mention police looking through cell phones on traffic stops.

    OP, you're a liar.
    That looks like a pretty cool device. Interesting that the ACLU can't cite a single instance of misuse so wants to go fishing through five-years of data to see if there may have been one.

    How about this story: "Police carry guns and there are unsolved murders so ACLU wants police to ballistically test every weapon to see if they may have been used in murder without any evidence or desire to pay for the testing." Sounds about the same as this story.

    There are all sorts of devices and software that can retrieve data from removable flash devices including free software. I've recovered deleted photos from phones and cameras.

    BTW, there are other ways to get the information from the phone and a hardware company would be able to make the required equipment. Various levels could theoretically be accessed with various levels of cooperation from cellphone companies down to the handset manufacturers. There are standards but there are also safeguards to prevent IP from being stolen. Handset makers care about their IP as much as users care about their data.

    Wiki "JTAG" as it is a standard used by many electronic devices and test equipment (and ARM processors supports JTAG and is used my many, many cellphones). Getting JTAG access to a phone would pretty much give unlimited access to any data that isn't encrypted. But each manufacturer sets it's own access code and guards it as IP (there is a case where a company obtained another companies JTAG access code and downloaded their microcode in the ROM = lawsuit) . JTAG is used to test and debug phones as they are being developed as well as returns. It's not a secret and is standard because companies like Verizon don't want each handset maker to have proprietary test equipment.
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    When i was pulled over in philly the cops kept answering my phone and messing with my friend..But i just
    saw on an episode of cops this officer had this chicks phone and it kept ringing and people where like i need a fat z (ounce of weed) So its not required i dont think..But the charge at least in pennsylvania criminal use of a communication facility for example is just calling a drug dealer to set up a deal. .Then if they want to hold it against you they may need a warrant to hold up the charge in court but i dont know for a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lt.Anger View Post
    When i was pulled over in philly the cops kept answering my phone and messing with my friend..But i just
    saw on an episode of cops this officer had this chicks phone and it kept ringing and people where like i need a fat z (ounce of weed) So its not required i dont think..But the charge at least in pennsylvania criminal use of a communication facility for example is just calling a drug dealer to set up a deal. .Then if they want to hold it against you they may need a warrant to hold up the charge in court but i dont know for a fact.
    Let me tell you: You don't know anything. You know nada. Zilch. Nothing. For a guy who just got nailed for DUI-Drugs, you should be concerned with your own substance abuse and health concerns than getting involved in a Civil Rights argument in which you have no experience of.

    The cell phones are answered do to the evidentiary value and inherent exigency of the ringing phone. If it's not picked up immediately, the evidentiary value of the call and the caller's intent is lost.

    Warrant or consent is generally required for forensic examination of a cell phone's contents.

    Here's your little lesson:
    Arrest drug dealer.
    His phone rings. Answer it under exigency. Set up deal.
    Make second arrest of buyer.
    Secure all cell phones in evidence
    Get warrants for phones' call and message history
    Examine cell phones for call and message history
    Send dealer and buyer to prison
    Eat a sammich.
    Repeat

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    Quote Originally Posted by G35 Mass View Post
    Examine cell phones for call and message history
    Send dealer and buyer to prison
    Eat a sammich.
    Repeat[/I]
    You can play with my cell phone all day long, but you start eating my sammiches, and we're gonna have some words .

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