Now that I am back to needing a permit to CCW....

[mcsap]

I was advised to get the PA Act 235 Lethal Weapons Card ( which allows me to carry a gun while employed by anyone) since I get waived on all of the requirements and pay 1/3 of the regular price. not sure if I will need it but it can't hurt.

I am lined up to go qualify for my HR 218 status but dont know if I want to do that every year. Our PA CCW is good in 22 states and more are coming on board.

But for now I cant carry concealed. BUT , I can OPEN carry wooo hoo. Don't worry , I detest those that OC in the general public even if it is legal.

[retdetsgt]

You can't carry concealed? Not even in PA? I could carry concealed in Oregon from the day I retired, I just need to have my department's retired ID card. I get the HR218 qualification and card just because I wander across the river into Washington now and then. Washington has always been tight@ssed about out of state police.

[MikeG]

I'm curious about if this still applies or not, but one of the reasons for CCW was the waiting period for handgun purchase was reduced to 0. Is that still the case? Does HR 218 affect that?

[basher52]

I was advised to get the PA Act 235 Lethal Weapons Card ( which allows me to carry a gun while employed by anyone) since I get waived on all of the requirements and pay 1/3 of the regular price. not sure if I will need it but it can't hurt.

I am lined up to go qualify for my HR 218 status but dont know if I want to do that every year. Our PA CCW is good in 22 states and more are coming on board.

But for now I cant carry concealed. BUT , I can OPEN carry wooo hoo. Don't worry , I detest those that OC in the general public even if it is legal.

mcsap,

You are good to go for one year to carry under LEOSA from date of retirement. My suggestion, get your PA carry and sometime before your year is up do the 218 qualification. Although the PA permit is currently recognized in 22 states (more to come) there are a few places you may want or NEED to Visit/Carry, like NY or Jersey (ya never know) where LEOSA is your only option. NY & NJ are not too far away and I can tell you, its better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it. Just my 2 cents.

[retdetsgt]

I'm curious about if this still applies or not, but one of the reasons for CCW was the waiting period for handgun purchase was reduced to 0. Is that still the case? Does HR 218 affect that?

Does HR 218 affect what? You lost me on that one.

In Oregon, any retired police officer can carry concealed, no matter from what state. It's been that way long before HR 218. I don't think Oregon recognizes other states' CCW though, at least they didn't used to.

It doesn't hurt to get the HR 218 card at any rate. At first, it was a bit of a hassle finding an agency that was willing to qualify retired cops, but a S.O. nearby became willing and easily accessible. I like having one just in case I do get in a shooting (God forbid), it would be nice to show a prosecutor that I at least qualified recently on a range.

[Joeyd6]

In simplest terms: HR218 is good in all 50 states and superceded any state CCW licensing. WHile PA is good in 22....that leaves 28 it is not good in!

Thus if you meet the criteria and get your yearly HR218 qual, you can CCW in any state.....period. HR218 is essentially a CCW card specifically for retired LEO's. States cannot limit such (despite trying like NY City and NJ where test cases were quickly dismissed and the municipalities paid out to the person for damages)

Besides, what retired cop doen't want to head to the range with a group of other retired cops once a year to test the old skills and have some fun?

[MikeG]

Does HR 218 affect what? You lost me on that one.

In Oregon, any retired police officer can carry concealed, no matter from what state. It's been that way long before HR 218. I don't think Oregon recognizes other states' CCW though, at least they didn't used to.

When purchasing a firearm, some states impose a waiting period. In Arizona, when they had a waiting period, it was waived if you had CCW card.

Is there a purchasing waiting period in PA or OR and does the presence of a CCW permit or HR218 change that? I could imagine a case in the crazy states where purchase is regulated by CCW even though carry is superceded by HR218. Just curious if that's the case.

[greg72982]

When purchasing a firearm, some states impose a waiting period. In Arizona, when they had a waiting period, it was waived if you had CCW card.

Is there a purchasing waiting period in PA or OR and does the presence of a CCW permit or HR218 change that? I could imagine a case in the crazy states where purchase is regulated by CCW even though carry is superceded by HR218. Just curious if that's the case.

I can't speak for retired police but last time I bought a gun, I think in 2010, I was out the door with it in minutes. Not sure what they did.

[retdetsgt]

When purchasing a firearm, some states impose a waiting period. In Arizona, when they had a waiting period, it was waived if you had CCW card.

Is there a purchasing waiting period in PA or OR and does the presence of a CCW permit or HR218 change that? I could imagine a case in the crazy states where purchase is regulated by CCW even though carry is superceded by HR218. Just curious if that's the case.

It doesn't matter in Oregon. They do the check background check electronically and if you pass, you walk with the gun. I've bought a couple since I retired and never showed any ID other than my driver's license. They had no idea I was a retired cop and I don't need a CCW permit.

[Norm357]

They don't do the background check in GA if you have a CCW. Saves me 25 bucks every time I buy a gun.

I don't understand why Mcsap needs a permit as a retired cop. Am I missing something?

[retdetsgt]

They don't do the background check in GA if you have a CCW. Saves me 25 bucks every time I buy a gun.

I don't understand why Mcsap needs a permit as a retired cop.

Background checks don't cost anything here, CCW or not.

Me neither. PA must be even weirder than I thought.

[mcsap]

Pa does an instant background check by phone for any gun purchase. It takes a couple minutes plus the paperwork and yoi are good to go. Having a CCW used to help but it doesn't matter now. Pa does not recognize my retired LEO status as anything.. I either need 218 or a CCW.

[cntryboy0531]

In Florida, if you don't have a CCW Permit, you have to wait 3 days to pickup a handgun after you buy it. Cooling off period.

If you have a CCW Permit, then you can walk with it right then and there.

Being a LEO, or a retired one, or being under HR218 has no affect on any of that. When I last bought a handgun a couple years ago, I still had to wait 3 days since I didn't have a CCW Permit.