Chicago laws regarding handguns.

[rascalchic]

If anyone is from Chicago, I wondered if you could clarify the law on handguns in Chicago. My firearms instructor has told us that anyone with a handgun in the city must have it registered, however, the only way you can register is if you work for a security company which requires you to own one for your job. In which case, if I were to drive through the city of chicago with my .22 in a box in the trunk, get pulled over and have it found....I will then go to jail and have my little .22 destroyed. Is this correct. I find that hard to believe. On the same note, what is the policy regarding rifles and shotguns?

Thanks for any response.

[Stump]

Scootsmo! Where are you?

[scootsmo]

I'm right here stump. The law is that you cannot have a functional handgun in the city of Chicago unless you are a licensed gun handler, a Law Enforcement Officer, or an armed security officer. If you are a gun handler or an armed security guard, you must have it in a locked gunbox in the trunk or rear of the vehicle. If it is found in your car and it is functional, then you will get charged with Unauthorized Use of Weapons which is a felony. Rifles and shotguns have the same rules. It has to be nonfunctional. Unloaded is not enough. There are other exceptions such as a tavern owner in his place of business but I don't think that would pertain to you.

[rascalchic]

Okay...I gotcha, but who exactly would a licensed gun handler be and what kind of license are you referring to? Is there somewhere I can look this law up? I would like a copy of it to show to those I am having this debate with in my firearms class.

[rascalchic]

Also, I really don't want to turn this into a debate, but isn't that a little unconstitutional? Maybe this is why The city is referred to as "The People's Republic of Chicago."

[jmill79]

Also, I really don't want to turn this into a debate, but isn't that a little unconstitutional? Maybe this is why The city is referred to as "The People's Republic of Chicago."

You bet your ***.....And you can thank the Great Mayor Richard Daley for that....im truelly suprised he hasnt mandated that the citizens of Chicago go around with their hands and arm out streched yelling "Heil Daley" "Heil Daley".....seriously this guy is one of the primary reasons Illinois sucks the way it does. If this SON OF A ***** had his way not one person in the state of Illinois would be allowed to own a firearm. all the while this Jagoff has 8 armed security guards watchin over him (must be nice). And with our newly elected Governor its gonna get even better---PFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTT

WELCOME TO ILLINOIS LEAVE YOUR RIGHTS AT THE DOOR!!

[scootsmo]

Jmill79, do you live in Chicago? This has nothing to do about being unconstitutional and everything to do with officer safety. It has nothing to do with Daley since the UUW laws are state laws. In regards to the "People's Republic of Chicago" comment, thats the way that our city runs and it has been working for over 150 years. The people respect the police. We might not do things the conventional way, but the way we do things goes back a little bit to the traditional model of policing.
Cities have the right to make ordinances about specific things. This is a power that the Federal government has almost no control over. Our laws on firearms, although strict, save a lot of officers lives. I trust that you know what you are doing with a firearm and the proper safety measures, but for every one of you there are twenty gangbangers that only use their weapons for killing. Since you don't live in the city then you basically have no say on the ordinances. If you are visiting, don't bring your weapon, and if you are driving through, go around. We have to enforce the laws that were made by our government.
In regards to the licensed handler, this would fall into the category of armorers. These are people that have gone through extensive training and know everything there is about guns. There are certain classes that you have to take. I don't know what the license says exactly but I will check up on it for you.

[Stump]

LMAO....
Scoots,
This may be too general of a question, but maybe you can answer.
What is different about the laws in Chicago as opposed to, say, Montana? Is Chicago different than other parts of IL?

[jmill79]

Ah Scootsmo it seems you have missunderstood what I had posted..in no way was i refering to the law against concealed carry in the state of Illinois (though we should have one)I do not live in the city of Chicago but I do live in this state...I was refering to the fact that the citiens of the city of Chicago are not alowed to pocess handguns within the city limits of chicago...how does that fact pertain to officer safety??? and please explain how the laws of the city pertaing to posession of handguns has nothing to do with Daly? He is the one that fully backs them and might --i say might because i am unsure--have even been the one pusshing them through the process. Daley is one of the Primary Anti-Gunners in this state.

In no way have I questioned your job to enforce the law...However you believing that taking firearms out of the hands of LAWABIDING civilians saves officers lives is way of key imho.

Respectively,
jmill79

[Jenna]

Scoots, I think u misunderstood too...jmill's responses made alot of sense to me...opinions may be diff, but they are all great.

[jmill79]

Stump what exactly was sooo funny...it seemed two ADULTS were having a conversation and had different opinions about certain laws or ordinences and you came in too stir up trouble AGAIN. I see why you have soo many posts now. And by the way keep the pm"s to yourself, I dont need to be bothered by such juvenile actions.

[Norm357]

Scoots,
I do not live in chicago but i do know the laws regarding handguns in the city limits. Restricting citizens access to handguns or not having any ccw laws has nothing to do whatsoever with officer saftey. It has everything to do with elitist left winged government. Mayor Daley is an idiot!!! Studies done by the Dept of Justice have shown that states with shall issue ccw actualy have a severe drop in crime.ok let me step of my soapbox now.
Stay safe everyone,
Norm357

[rascalchic]

Well, then. I guess Jmill feels pretty strongly on the subject. Although, I didn't mean to set anything off it looks like I did. I see both sides of the story, Jmills and scoots. However, it is in my constitutional right to own a weapon if I so choose. Aren't state laws bound by the amendments too. It is my understanding that is the case. Yes, we must keep our police officers as safe as possible, but in order to do that for you guys, we must give up a fundamental right given to us by our forefathers? PO saftey is very important, however, would it not be reasonable to conclude that most of the people who would take aim and fire at a police officer, most likely have not registered that weapon anyway? After my firearms course I will be trained to care for and use my handgun properly. If I lived in the city of chicago and the laws were different I would have no problem registering my handgun because I WOULD NEVER use it, but in a rare case of personal protection or for target practice and especially NOT towards a police officer. Maybe there should be some more considerations for the law. I hate that a few rotten apples have spoiled the bunch! I have also heard reference to Daley's desire to make Illinois a "gun free state"...and that Blagoyovich (however you spell that) has the same on his agenda. I have to agree with Jmills. That is unconstitutional. And Stump, it is different than other towns in Illinois. I live in the suburbs and it is my understanding that a few have similar laws, but for the most part they are not so strict. I personally was just asking because I want to make sure I follow the law when traveling with my gun and often frequent Chicago. I would hate to loose my *** because of ignorance. Thanks for your help, Scoots :D

[scootsmo]

All of you are going away from trhe original post. My reply was in regards to her having her gun in her car and what happens when she gets pulled over for it. Read the original post before criticizing mine. What you don't understand is that there is nothing unconstitutional about it. The city has made an ordinance and if you don't like it then move into Chicago and talk to your alderman. If the people of Chicago didn't agree with it then I believe that something would have been done about it.
This ordinance is not a directive from Daley. Do you forget about what happened during prohibition in Chicago? This is the origin of the ordinance. Chicago is a town built on tradition, it has worked for quite awhile. For you to say that officer safety has nothing to do with it is way off base. I agree that most of the people that I deal with wouldn't register if it were legal anyways, but this is one additional charge to put on them and keep them in jail longer. Away from me. It sucks for the law abiding citizens that want to bear arms in city limits but you don't live here so what does it matter anyways?

[Norm357]

OOPS I meant rascalchic. so solly