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    Being denied an interim clearance is nothing. It wouldn't matter if you put one or 1 million. You have drug use so you can not obtain an interim. The only time an interim clearance is given is if you show no issues in your background that need to be cleared up.
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

    Translation for the intellectually challenged: If the government screws the people too much, it is the right and duty of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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    First off, Welcome to RP from the Florida Panhandle. We usually ask our newest members to go to the New Member Introductions forum and post a thread about themselves. Coming in to our internet house and peppering us with questions without an intro is considered bad form here at RP. As you've probably already seen there's tons of great info and people here, so dig in and really explore the space!

    Also, since you're new, I'm going to assume that your double post of the same thread in the same forum was a mistake. I have deleted the other thread because this one already had responses. Just for your info, double posting is also considered bad form.

    As for your question, I am unable to comment as I have never applied for a fed position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccreid0 View Post
    When it came to the marijuana use questions I could not think back at the time and I decided on the number 17. 17 because I figured 1 use for every year I smoked it until I stopped.
    So you went with 17 because you smoked marijuana, every year, for 17 years?

    Are you saying 7 times now because it was only 7 years of smoking marijuana?

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    yes the double post was an accident. I had some errors in my original post.

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    Let me see if I have this right. You now say you have only smoked 7 times not 17 as first stated. Those 7 times represent "1 use for every year I smoked it until I stopped". Age 17 was the year of your last use. This means that since you were eleven years old you smoked marijuana every year until you were seventeen. I don't know what you definition of "one use" for every year means. Do you expect anyone to believe that when you were twelve you smoked one joint on Jan 2, and that was your one use for the rest of the year? Your answer should be, I smoked marijuana since I was eleven years old and now I want to be in law enforcement so I stopped at seventeen. I think your answers are evasive and they will see right through them and you.

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    Or perhaps your mind is just a bit foggy from all of the years of smoking and you just really don't know ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccreid0 View Post
    I choose the number 17 because...
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    Let me stop you right there and just call this how I see it (and how police agencies may see it as well). The wording you're using it pretty telling, "I chose the number" means you had to decide on a number you were comfortable with because you've smoked more times than you can accurately remember. That's a problem. Changing the answer doesn't do you any favors either, you have it officially documented as "17" so now if a background investigator (who is looking at a new background form with the number "7") is going to think you either made a typo on the new application or are lying. In either case, he/she will probably ask you to clarify your answer and what you're posting above is probably not going to sit well.

    Just offering my perspective, but changing information about past offenses on different application questionnaires is often looked at as a means to "better" (i.e. lie) about your previous response in hopes of having a better result, and could lead to you being disqualified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccreid0 View Post
    Thanks kimble I appreciate your input. I used the number 17 because I did not have time to count. All of my usages were 4 years prior to filling out my application. If you try to remember back 4 years its pretty challenging. My concern was to underestimate and then have issues on a polygraph. Is there anything further I can do to help my case?
    Ask me to go back four years or fourteen... I know my number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccreid0 View Post
    Thanks kimble I appreciate your input. I used the number 17 because I did not have time to count. All of my usages were 4 years prior to filling out my application. If you try to remember back 4 years its pretty challenging. My concern was to underestimate and then have issues on a polygraph. Is there anything further I can do to help my case?
    If you asked me what I had for breakfast on this date 4 years ago I'd agree with you, but we're talking about how many times you used an illegal controlled substance, and if it's so many times you can't remember the number, that's probably going to be problematic, regardless of what you have written down on paper (past or future).

    Is there anything you can do to help your case? Be honest (and you know what the truth actually is about this) and let the chips fall where they may. Best anyone can do.
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    If I recall correctly the federal BI doesn't check with every agency you applied at, only the ones where you worked. The locals might do that, but the feds like to do thier own work and look down thier noses at the work of other agencies (even other federal agencies).
    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

    Translation for the intellectually challenged: If the government screws the people too much, it is the right and duty of the people to revolt and form a new government.

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