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    I.C.E. jobs questions

    I was on the ICE website and I was looking at the different careers that ICE had to offer. I was looking at Contraband Smuggling and Human Trafficking. Is there anybody on this site that can tell me the REAL day in the life or what goes on? Do you get to choose which Dept. you want? Is the FPS Dept. a "higher" position in I.C.E.? I also was looking at some of the photos and there were Agents/Employees with a jacket that had ICE POLICE. Are they part of Investigations or Detentiona and Rem. One last question, what does a "Missions Support Specialist" actually do???????
    I am really looking into the I.C.E., but I really don't want to have a desk job. I would like to be around, out and about. What would you recommened? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokoebird View Post
    Is the FPS Dept. a "higher" position in I.C.E.?
    They are not any "higher", not really sure what you're asking there. Their role doesn't have anything to do with immigration or customs, but they just happen to fall under ICE.

    Federal Protective Service (FPS) was realigned into the Department of Homeland Security, ICE, after the restructuring in 2003.

    They were previously apart of the U.S. General Services Administration, Public Building Service, the government's landloard and currently provide law enforcement, physical security and oversight of contract guard operations within federally leased or owned properties.
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    Mission Support

    99.9% of Mission Support Specialists are NON gun toters, No LEO authority, you are a gopher basically for the branch chief. A desk job or admin some call it.
    Not a bad career by any means, it all depends on what you want outta life.
    Ride a desk fetching donuts for the GS-13/14. LOL Mission support peeps are ultra important especially when you want new equipment or your travel manager voucher paid...:D

    If you want your gun and badge look under ICE IEA's, Special Agents, Deportation Officers, or FPS inspectors. The catagories to look up under USA jobs would be 1801, 1802, 1811, 0080, and 0083.

    Good Luck in your search.

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    What exactly do IEA's do? I know about the corrections and deportation. But I heard they do some fugitive recovery as well. Is that true? If so how often? Are they allowed to be a part of ICE's SRT unit or any task forces or anything like that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCarr305 View Post
    What exactly do IEA's do? I know about the corrections and deportation. But I heard they do some fugitive recovery as well. Is that true? If so how often? Are they allowed to be a part of ICE's SRT unit or any task forces or anything like that?
    Simple answer is well it's not simple ;)

    IEA's do different duties & a lot depends on your duty station. Yes they can be assigned to a Fug Op's team. it may be a rotating detail 3 months of Fug Op's then 3 months of jail checks then 3 months of whatever. Like I said it all depends on your duty location.

    I don't know anything about their SRT teams so I can't answer that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokoebird View Post
    I was on the ICE website and I was looking at the different careers that ICE had to offer. I was looking at Contraband Smuggling and Human Trafficking. Is there anybody on this site that can tell me the REAL day in the life or what goes on? Do you get to choose which Dept. you want? Is the FPS Dept. a "higher" position in I.C.E.? I also was looking at some of the photos and there were Agents/Employees with a jacket that had ICE POLICE. Are they part of Investigations or Detentiona and Rem. One last question, what does a "Missions Support Specialist" actually do???????
    I am really looking into the I.C.E., but I really don't want to have a desk job. I would like to be around, out and about. What would you recommened? Thank you.
    I don't know much about FPS but they are not higher or lower then anyone else. as far as I know they are journeyman GS13's. which aint bad.

    ICE/Police can be either OI or DRO it depends on what they were doing when they took the picture.

    Yes you get to choose. You choose to apply with either ICE OI as a criminal Investigator or you choose to apply to ICE DRO as either an IEA or Deportation Officer.

    Mission support is the admin people. While not LEO's most offices/stations would shut down without their admin people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokoebird View Post
    I was on the ICE website and I was looking at the different careers that ICE had to offer. I was looking at Contraband Smuggling and Human Trafficking. Is there anybody on this site that can tell me the REAL day in the life or what goes on? Do you get to choose which Dept. you want? Is the FPS Dept. a "higher" position in I.C.E.? I also was looking at some of the photos and there were Agents/Employees with a jacket that had ICE POLICE. Are they part of Investigations or Detentiona and Rem. One last question, what does a "Missions Support Specialist" actually do???????
    I am really looking into the I.C.E., but I really don't want to have a desk job. I would like to be around, out and about. What would you recommened? Thank you.
    Contraband Smuggling and Human Trafficking are two areas of investigation that are handled by the ICE Office of Investigations. The people working those investigations are Special Agents. If you decide to apply for a job as an ICE Special Agent, you might be assigned to one of these areas of investigation. But, you might be assigned to one of the many other areas of investigation handled by ICE. You might be assigned to money laundering, customs fraud, child porn, immigration fraud, asset forfeiture, or some other investigative area. You will have NO say in what area you are assigned to. You might not like what you get. As far as you not wanting a desk job; You should probably forget about Contraband Smuggling or Human Trafficking, or any other Office of Investigations work. In essence, forget about the Special Agent job.

    The Detention and Removal Office (DRO) enocmpasses Immigration Enforcement Agents (IEA's) and Deportation Officers (DO's). It is highly unlikely that you will be hired as a DO without working as an IEA first, or having some time with the Border Patrol. IEA's can be assigned to detention centers, where they process immigration detainees and operate the detention facilities. They can be assigned to escort work and travel oversees while escorting certain criminal aliens back to their home countries. They can be assigned to criminal alien work, which (for them) mostly involves interviewing aliens at the various jails and prisons to see who should be deported after the legal system is done with them. They can be assigned to Fugitive Operations, where they spend their time locating and apprehending criminal aliens with orders of deportation who have failed to leave, or criminal aliens who have failed to appear at immigration court. These positions are highly sought after, and it is unlikely that any newly-hired IEA's will get to do that work. DO's, in a nutshell, oversee all of these operations and functions that are handled by DRO.

    If you have no LE experience, you lack a 4-year degree, and you have no military experience, you won't be hired as a Special Agent. You will also not be hired as a Deportation Officer. These aren't really "entry level" jobs. You can compete for a job as an IEA. From there, you might eventually get hired as a DO or SA. It all depends on circumstances. If you have a 4-year degree, LE experience, or solid military experience (4 years of active duty, honorable discharge, some commendations, no NJP), you can apply for an SA job.

    Don't put all of your eggs in one basket. If border security and related LE work is what you desire, you might consider applying for a job with the Border Patrol. Many Special Agents and Deportation Officers started there. Another option is CBP Officer. Many SA's and DO's started there as well. Good luck.

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    The Federal Protective Service falls under the administrative control of ICE. However, they don't have much to do with ICE at all. They mostly provide security and LE service to federal buildings. I don't know anything about being hired by FPS.
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    What about "DETENTION AND REMOVAL ASSISTANT". I was going through USAJOBS and I came across that. Is that something that like IEA you can transfer into Deportation Officer after sometime? Do they have any LE authority or is it all office work?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCarr305 View Post
    What about "DETENTION AND REMOVAL
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    That was a well written overview. Since I am still in the Military, the Mission Support Specialist is what we call "POAGEs". They are not the "combat arms" of the military. But still without them, nothing will ever get accomplished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lokoebird View Post
    That was a well written overview. Since I am still in the Military, the Mission Support Specialist is what we call "POAGEs". They are not the "combat arms" of the military. But still without them, nothing will ever get accomplished.
    If you're an 11B then why'd you'd spell it POAGE? How does that equate to "people other-than grunts" which is what POG stood for? Did I mention that many of us on here are prior service? :D

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    There was no intent to disrespect anyone that was prior service. I still am in the military as a Cav Scout. I've never seen "POG" spelled that way. But I have many many friends that aren't combat arms. They talk crap about us too! LOL. All in good fun!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ifineed2 View Post
    If you're an 11B then why'd you'd spell it POAGE? How does that equate to "people other-than grunts" which is what POG stood for? Did I mention that many of us on here are prior service? :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by lokoebird View Post
    There was no intent to disrespect anyone that was prior service. I still am in the military as a Cav Scout. I've never seen "POG" spelled that way. But I have many many friends that aren't combat arms. They talk crap about us too! LOL. All in good fun!!!
    Non taken bro, we're all on the same side, who you stationed with? When you out? Have you deployed?

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