Pentagon Police

[superc]

DUH! Of corse 1811s are covered by the LEO status, all 1811s are- that is a whole different situation, they aren't Pentagon Police, they are Pentagon force Protection Agency

No, 1811 does not automatically give someone FLEO status. In the case of the DPS Pentagon Police Criminal Investigation section they had to fight for it. Initially back in the delegation days (86 or 87) they were Police Investigators then management (read JJ, EW and Z (for insiders)) made them 1811 cross trainees as a temporary detail duty with no change in salary or benefits for up to one year, then back to Uniform fixed post for a week, then back to temporary detail as... Then the first full time announcement 1811 hires were in 89. GS 5 and 7. The 9 and 11s that followed, were as a result of a Merit Systems Protection action which put some blood in the water as some higher ups went on record as being opposed to anything that allowed the investigators to approach their salaries. Even then there was no FLEO status within the DPS. That grew out of a brave person formally requesting in writing a rare and potentially hazardous to his career OPM monitored action called a "desk audit," which some managers opposed (and tried to block and defeat). Due to a strange failure of management's Sunday night cleaning out of desks prior to a Monday morning inspection to remove all files that would qualify personnel (the midnite raid had been anticipated months before and crucial documents were stored at a work location "managers" didn't know of (control of early DPS Investigations and space allocation was really poor) the audit was won and status as a FLEO was won by those four people.

To be an 1811, or even an 083, does NOT convey with it police powers or retirement benefits. (See Middleton vs. US DC appeals, a case involving an 083 police officer arrested for carrying a pistol off duty in DC.) Those job series and job titles are merely labels assigned for personnel purposes and do not, in and of themselves convey police powers or retirement benefits. Police powers are conveyed only through specific acts of legislation and appointment to. Special retirement pay is determined only through legislation and or desk audit type inspection of the agency by OPM. Many, many 1811 positions are not covered by FLEO statutes or 20 year retirement. Many, many 1811 personnel are also not police and have no legislated powers of arrest unless deputized by someone else. (IG Agents are a good example.)

How long you stay a uniform there is influenced by many factors. Don't go to FLETC as a rookie and expect that upon graduation as a PO you will immediatly be chosen as a traveling body guard, special ops sort, or assigned to investigations based on a pretty smile. You might, if you are lucky, within a year or two (or nine) be cross assigned for one or two months cross training (familiarization). It will probably be up to the unit to decide themselves if they want to see your face again when the two months are up. In CI, your skill and productivity as a report writer, and willingness to carry your share of work during your time there will have a lot to do with it. Too much work for dead wood appointees. Dignitary protection has different things they look for. Telling the Principle that he should hurry up with his State dinner or other evening function because you have a hot date afterwards won't help your career. Some have rotated through DPS CI on several occasions. Some only once and only for a few days and won't be back.