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    ICE and age 37 cutoff

    If you start processing but hit 37 before you get hired are you done? Or do you just have to start the process before 37? Do they do any waivers? I dont want to waste time since it is extremely unlikely the hiring process can be completed in time and I am at the very beginning of the process. Any input is helpful.
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    You can't be hired after your 37th birthday. ICE has no waivers for this criterion.
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    You have to be hired by your 37th birthday. However there are some ICE DRO slots and BP slots that allow you to be hired up to age 40.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparty View Post
    You have to be hired by your 37th birthday. However there are some ICE DRO slots and BP slots that allow you to be hired up to age 40.
    As Sparty suggested, you may be able to work as a Special Agent for ICE if the following conditions are met:

    1. You are hired by another job that currently allows hiring up to age 40 and has the same retirement as ICE Special Agents (such as the ICE Immigration Enforcement Agent and US Border Patrol Agent positions).

    2. Once hired and you've completed a few years in these positions, you could then apply for a Special Agent position with ICE and, so long as they honor the age waiver ICE DRO or USBP gave you, you could be hired as a Special Agent (I had a classmate in CITP who was 40 yoa and was a former Border Patrol Agent).
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    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.

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    Also, the tenative offer comes after you pass the written test and interview stages. Then you proceed to the medical, drug, and background investigation. Call your local recruiter to see if this is still the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwulf View Post
    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.
    That would surprise me if they did it that way. For me, the day I was officially hired was the first day I was at the academy (I am not an 1811 with ICE). This date is also listed on my Form 50. I know applicants that have received tentative offers that waited years before getting hired on. The clock did not stop for them while processing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwulf View Post
    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.
    If you're close to the 37 I would check into this. Like Nole said I would be surprised as well. Simple fact is that you have to have been hired by your 37th birthday period. This is because the mandatory forced retirement is at 57 and you have to have your 20 years in in order to retire. They will not extend your mandatory retirement age to include your time when you had a "tenative" offer.


    To the original posted like Sparty said there are some covered position(s) that go to age 40. USBP being one of them & I'm not sure about the iCE DRO positions. But if you can get in with either then it won't matter how old you are when/if hired by ICE because you will already be in a 6c covered position so the age limit dosen't apply.

    I would say that if you are 35 or 36 & If either of these positions dosen't interest you then sorry find something else as you will only be wasting your time because you don't have enough time left before your 37 birthday to make it through the process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwulf View Post
    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.
    I will third that this is bad information. As BP said, the whole reason for the 37 cutoff is so that you can serve 20 years before the mandatory retirement age of 57 for 1811's. Tentative Offer time does not count toward your retirement. In order to be eligible your entrance on duty (EOD) date must be prior to your 37th birthday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwulf View Post
    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.
    You might want to check on that. I don't see how it could work like that. I know if we have someone that is getting close to 37 and we want to hire them, we will go ahead and actually hire them, even if we can't send them to the academy right away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwulf View Post
    I am currently in T&S for an ICE 1811 slot. I was told by MHC (now DSC) once you receive a tenative offer of employment, your age stops. So, with that logic, if you receive a TO before your 37th birthday, you'll be good to go if the rest of the process takes 3 years.
    I've actually heard the same thing. But I always found it hard to believe as no other agency seems to work this way. I would definately check.

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    Thanks for the info, I already have a job as a p.o. so it is what it is. I guess it cant hurt to send the paperwork in and maybe get lucky I just wont count on it really going anywhere.

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    Well, I can't say that itis the way things are generally done, but I can tell you that I PERSONALLY know a case where someone was hired on to ICE after his 37th birthday. My buddy is just hitting his 1st anniversary with ICE. He was in the process for a very long time (can you say Legacy Customs?). When all was said and done, he started the acadmey just before he turned 38. He was simply advised that he had to work until he is 58.
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    Also just to chime in again, there is a guy on another forum who turned 37 well over a year ago and just got the call from ICE. He had received his TO a few months before his 37th birthday. So it does in fact appear to be true that you just need to get your TO before your 37th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    Well, I can't say that itis the way things are generally done, but I can tell you that I PERSONALLY know a case where someone was hired on to ICE after his 37th birthday. My buddy is just hitting his 1st anniversary with ICE. He was in the process for a very long time (can you say Legacy Customs?). When all was said and done, he started the acadmey just before he turned 38. He was simply advised that he had to work until he is 58.
    I guess ICE has obtained some sort of waiver of OPM 6c retirement rules, of the nature that the Border Patrol has, and that the Federal Air Marshals had when they were first created.

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