U.S. Marshals Service Hiring

[Vorpal]

My argument is against the CSCEP, altogether... not about a 34 year old wanting (or being allowed) to participate in it. I can assure you, it is generally accepted that military and LE guys are better candidates than candidates fresh out of college. In my example, that 34 year old has military, LE experience AND a degree, yet he won't even be considered for a job when we recruit so heavily through the co-op program. How could you question WHETHER he is a better candidate? He brings everything that college kid, who still lives with mom, AND THEN SOME! HANDS DOWN, THAT 34 YEAR OLD IS A BETTER CANDIDATE. I am not saying he'll be a better DUSM. There is no way to judge that. I am just saying he is a better candidate.

However, why speculate on who's better, hypothetically! Open hiring to everyone and then select only those best candidates. Trust me, we see PLENTY come through the CSCEP program who would not make it through, were it a open hiring process. It's not your fault as a co-op, nor does it necessarily reflect poorly on you personally. I am speaking against the program, itself. Then again, with a little research, you can guess why the program is in existence and it accomplishes what it's goals.

As someone who came into the Marshals at 34 with prior military and LE experience I'm afraid I'm going to have to agree with Switchback on this one.

[ShootNMove]

This thread has provided a lot of helpful information. I've been interested in becoming employed by the US Marshals Service for quite some time now, I've just been waiting to separate from the military to enroll in college.

I was wondering if anyone would be able to tell me whether the new "Pathway Program" will be restricted to the schools that the USMS has CSCEP agreements with, or will the program be available to students from any university?

I dont think anyone can really comment on the new pathway program as of yet because it hasnt been implemented with the marshals at this time. From what i've read it would be fairly similar to the CSCEP, but i haven't heard of school restrictions. I would think that the only realistic opportunities would be had from schools near any one of the 94 district offices. If you're that serious about the Marshal's you should start with an internship and then work your way into the Pathway Program once it picks up momentum with the Marshals.

[ShootNMove]

Just curious if anyone has anymore news of the current USMS COOP or the USMS hiring in general?

[nyctrainer8]

Judging by the news coming out now, if I were an applicant, I might consider combing through USAJOBS in the near future. I dunno, maybe sometime around the 5th of March ...

[ShootNMove]

Judging by the news coming out now, if I were an applicant, I might consider combing through USAJOBS in the near future. I dunno, maybe sometime around the 5th of March ...

Yes, I received word about the update on the website the morning it was put up as well. I am unclear whether it will do me (a CSCEP waiting) any good. Supposedly you need a bachelor's and 1 year experience in law enforcement to apply, yet the flyer says differently. As someone who is delaying graduation for the CSCEP I dont yet have my degree and I dont exactly have law enforcement experience...

[Switchback]

Yes, I received word about the update on the website the morning it was put up as well. I am unclear whether it will do me (a CSCEP waiting) any good. Supposedly you need a bachelor's and 1 year experience in law enforcement to apply, yet the flyer says differently. As someone who is delaying graduation for the CSCEP I dont yet have my degree and I dont exactly have law enforcement experience...

Don't EXACTLY have LE experience? THat is like LIND OF pregnant. You do or you don't.

Anywho, if the flyer doesn't say you need a degree and LE experience, put it. That's the beautiful thing! A ton of people can put in and then they can select the ones that they think make the best candidate.

What would it hurt by putting in. Of course, that is jut coming from a guy who put in and never thought I had a chance. Make them tell you no.

[ShootNMove]

Don't EXACTLY have LE experience? THat is like LIND OF pregnant. You do or you don't.

Anywho, if the flyer doesn't say you need a degree and LE experience, put it. That's the beautiful thing! A ton of people can put in and then they can select the ones that they think make the best candidate.

What would it hurt by putting in. Of course, that is jut coming from a guy who put in and never thought I had a chance. Make them tell you no.

Heres why I say I dont exactly have 1 year law enforcement experience...

I've been an Intern for almost 2 years at a local DA's office doing all kinds of interesting stuff, and that's primarily why I've continued to intern so long. But the USMS website says that you need "One year specialized experience" and doesnt exactly spell out law enforcement, but I would imagine that the things ive done would qualify me based on me doing quite a bit of what the investigators normally do. Only things I really dont do are law enforcement related, like arresting people. They give you a lot of responsibility and import things to do, which is why I feel my experience may be "specialized experience". And I'm unsure how they calculate qualifications of combining education and experience, so I really dont know if I qualify or not based on these standards.

I figured I would do as you said, just apply and let them tell me know. Sounds like a good idea, but ill hope for a yes.

[ET109]

What would it hurt by putting in.

Because my background packets always ask for the other LE jobs I've applied to... stupid writer's cramp!

jk. It would be nice to be able to put in an app...

[Switchback]

Because my background packets always ask for the other LE jobs I've applied to... stupid writer's cramp!

jk. It would be nice to be able to put in an app...

Put in. They are not looking at your background until towards the end of the hiring process. No one is going to know you put in for the USMS until they are really looking to bring you on.

[jsu7833m]

I also saw that the flyer is different than what the website is posting as far as the Bachelor’s Degree and a LE background. I am still going to apply just to see what will happen. I’ve been a firefighter in Atlanta for 5 years and have 60 credit hours currently. Does anyone have any insight if firefighting would be considered “relative” work experience?

Thanks,
H

[jsu7833m]

After reading some of the post in the past I understand the difference between qualified and actually hired. I'm sure just about everyone who applies is qualified. Just to compound on my previous post I am 24 years old and also worked 1 year in Iraq as a firefighter training the Iraqi Air Force firefighters but this was not with the military it was DoD. Is there an average age of new hires?

[Switchback]

Generally speaking, hose-dragging would not count. (Sorry,I could not resist.) I don't read the announcements anymore, but mine was pretty clear. It said you needed to have a bachelor's degree, 2 1/2 years of LE experience or a combination of the 2. I'm not clear on what it is these days (as if you can have a combination of the 2 or not). If you have some "other" investigations, give it a shot. I really don't see being a fireman as a qualification... no matter where you did it.

[nyctrainer8]

It said you needed to have a bachelor's degree, 2 1/2 years of LE experience or a combination of the 2. I'm not clear on what it is these days (as if you can have a combination of the 2 or not).

For what it's worth, the rumor that I heard (keyword RUMOR)) is that LE OR military won't be enough anymore. They will require military AND LE experience with arrest power. A degree is still a a qualifier. Plus your test score, of course.

The only certainty is that whatever the next hiring initiative is, and however candidates are judged, guys who are on the job now will hate it.

[limeade]

Wait so if you have Military you will need to have LE experience too? Or are you saying both are required?

If a person has college and LE experience does he still qualify under the new rumored standards?

[marinepilot]

Hmmm, I just looked at the flyer online and am amazed that they are offering the posibility of an age waiver "for preference eligible veterans or current/prior federal civilian law enforcement personnel who have surpassed their 37th birthday."

Also, it says that they will open up the applications process on March 5th for 5 days, or until 5,000 applications have been received. Probably be closed in like 20 minutes!