CBP NOT getting LEO Status??

[TSARay]

The following was posted over on 911forums:

The CBPO announcement on USAJOBS has been modified yet again. This is the third time the wording has been changed. When the announcement first opened it read:

"1) Please note that the CBP Officer position may have law enforcement retirement coverage effective July 6th, 2008. As a result of this provision, the CBP Officer position may be subject to a maximum entry age of 37. Based on these changes, in order for an individual to be selected for a CBP Officer on and after July 6th, 2008, they would need to have taken the CBP Officer test and been referred for a CBP Officer position prior to achieving the maximum entry age for CBP Officers."

It was then changed to read:

"1) Please note that the CBP Officer position will have law enforcement retirement coverage effective July 6th, 2008. As a result of this provision, the CBP Officer position will be subject to a maximum entry age of 37. Based on these changes, in order for an individual to be selected for a CBP Officer on and after July 6th, 2008, they would need to have taken the CBP Officer test and been referred for a CBP Officer position prior to achieving the maximum entry age for CBP Officers."

On 3/4/08 it was changed for the second time. It now states the following:

"CBPO 08-02 amended on 3/4/08 due to change in Special Note 1 below."

Special Notes:

"1) Please note that the CBP Officer position will be covered by Special CBPO Retirement Coverage under Public Law 110-161 effective July 6, 2008. As a result of these provisions, the CBP Officer position may be subject to a maximum entry age of 37. Based on these changes, in order for an individual to be selected for a CBP Officer on and after July 6th, 2008, they would need to have taken the CBP Officer test and been referred for a CBP Officer position prior to achieving the maximum entry age for CBP Officers."

Notice that this time the they removed the words "Law Enforcement" and "will" to "CBPO special retirement" and "may."

[SSA1811]

The following is a link to a message from the President of the National Treasury Employees Union ("NTEU") discussing the particulars of the bill President Bush signed providing "an enhanced reitrement benefit to Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Officers.".

http://www.cbpunion.org/PresidentsMessage.aspx

Ironically, if you click on the "Home" link, the headline story has NTEU President Colleen M. Kelley joined by DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff, CBP Commissioner W. Ralph Basham, and U.S. Rep. Chris Carney (D-Pa.) saluting CBP Officers killed in the line of duty.


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[Motorolanut]

God Bless CBP at least they are getting something...;)

Us 0083 non covered bottom feeders will never see anything
except our TSP's after 30 years...LOL

[chewy]

God Bless CBP at least they are getting something...;)

Us 0083 non covered bottom feeders will never see anything
except our TSP's after 30 years...LOL

If it's any consalation I NEVER thought I'd see in my days the time when we would get LEO coverage... I'm shocked as all get out. Of course for some reason Bush HATES CBP... I'm not sure why but he sure seems to have it out for us

[MDEMT280]

So it's not 6c, but something exactly the same as 6c? :confused:

[SSA1811]

It is not covered under 6c/12d, but will be covered by "Special CBPO Retirement Coverage" under Public Law 110-161 effective July 6, 2008.

Its not really what the CBP Officers had hoped for, but it is a small step in the right direction. My understanding is that there are quite a few details regarding the implementation of this bill that still have to be worked out - that is why there is such vague wording such as, "may be subject to" as opposed to "will be subject to".

If you look at TSARay's intial post and the text he highlighted you will see what I mean.
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[Merlin]

I believe it's safe to say we're getting 6C/12D, just not "LEO" status.
As I understand it, what happened was that 6C/12D was modified to include "LEO's", Nuclear Materials Couriers, and as of July...Customs and Border Protection Officers.

[Big Sexy]

Of course for some reason Bush HATES CBP... I'm not sure why but he sure seems to have it out for us

Maybe he's read your posts. :p

[chewy]

Maybe he's read your posts. :p

:D
Maybe

[schrute]

I believe it's safe to say we're getting 6C/12D, just not "LEO" status.
As I understand it, what happened was that 6C/12D was modified to include "LEO's", Nuclear Materials Couriers, and as of July...Customs and Border Protection Officers.

I took a look at the statute and that's exactly how I read it. I think the question is whether or not this will stop the clock for purposes of applying for other federal LE positions.

[SSA1811]

There are a lot of details which still have to be worked out, but consider how this can be "true" 6c/12d coverage when:

- CBP Officers can opt out of the LEO coverage, and
- The mandatory LEO retirement age of 57 years would be waived for all current CBP Officers

I hope I am wrong, but I have to believe this is going to be some kind of "special" plan unique to CBP Officers rather than a modification to an existing plan that covers all other Federal LEO's, e.g., will other 6c covered LEO's be able to waive the mandatory retirement age?.

P.S. In all seriousness, I keep hearing things are improving at both CBP and TSA ..... don't stone me on this, but thats what I'm hearing


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[chewy]

My understanding is that it isn't going to stop the clock for us that are already in. The new announcements coming out are worded to include that you must be under 37 to apply. From what we heard new persons applying will have the same 6c type coverage. It's kind of screwy because it's just starting and they don't know what to do with those of us who already work here. There is still stuff that has to be worked out but it's a good thing. This will allow them to force people into shape and such too which will help our agency tremendously. Plus now we have SRT and stuff there is more incentive for people to stay and have fun :D

[SSA1811]

However things shake out, I sincerely hope for the best for all of you folks - you deserve it!

Now if only the bureaucrats and upper-level management would realize that when it comes to employee morale and respect, they've got to walk the talk .....

P.S. @chewy: I heard there is a potential recruit in northern MI who is hoping you might take him under your wing if he is fortunate enough to get hired!


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[sparty]

Of course for some reason Bush HATES CBP... I'm not sure why but he sure seems to have it out for us

President Bush doesn't hate CBP, chewy, he hates you.:D

[BP348]

I've seen stuff on the USBP union web page and the Office of the Border Patrol home page about making USBP agents sometype of GS-12, somthing like journeyman GS-11 and compete for lead patrol agent GS-12 with firstline supervisors as GS-13. Or maybe just making the journeyman level GS-12 accross the board.

You guys heard anything like that for CBPO's?