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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmanallen View Post
    The FLETC PEB passing score is 40%. I know the FLETC PEB site doesn't give this value -- only the certificate values.
    CITP has no PASS or FAIL!!!

    While other programs have such, CITP has none!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    CITP has no PASS or FAIL!!!

    While other programs have such, CITP has none!
    DING, DING, DING, DING

    I think we have a winner!



    (...and that is another reason that it IS a joke!)


    And, FWIW, I am a fit instructor for an agency that DOES have standards. :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by Switchback View Post
    DING, DING, DING, DING

    I think we have a winner!



    (...and that is another reason that it IS a joke!)


    And, FWIW, I am a fit instructor for an agency that DOES have standards. :D
    Remember though, CITP is a catch all and is not an agency. Now, some agencies do enforce some of their standards on students, even though they are in CITP. But being that CITP serves many masters, each with their own sense of what's right and what's wrong, which more times than not, does not comply with it's sister agencies. A consensus would never be reached to which way is the proper way to preform a certain function or in what time that function should be performed.

    BIG believes CITP does a fairly decent job, considering with what it has to work with.

    Regardless, once one has completed CITP, in most cases, they still have their agency add on, where standards are applied. If said agencies have said standards to enforce.
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    I don't want to bring this thing back from the dead but it is a great thread.

    Switchback can you please post tips or things to be ready for in the USMS basic part? If all stays well I will be down in July.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MDTerp07 View Post
    I don't want to bring this thing back from the dead but it is a great thread.

    Switchback can you please post tips or things to be ready for in the USMS basic part? If all stays well I will be down in July.

    Thanks in advance.
    After watching some of the Marshals PT when I was there a few weeks ago for firearms instructor, I am not sure if I would rather PT with them for 2 hours or be tied to a tree naked while being stoned. I am not sure if that class ticked off an instructor or that was a daily thing, but it hurt just watching!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    There is also a a final exercise at the end of ORT now, called the Gauntlet. 50% of the class (after 11 weeks of PT and DT puke at this event. There are always a few who pass out.
    They called it the "Gauntlet?" I wonder if that was an intimidation trick on the part of your PTD instructor. :D Our PTD instructors referred to it as "TSD", which I think means "tactical scenario drill." It was one HECK of a work out. I won't go into too much detail in an open forum, but it had several stations with each having a different DT skill you have to perform, with red and blue lights flashing and loud heavy metal music going. It was insane! I don't know if we had anyone puke, but know we had a couple have to go to the health unit afterwards (nothing too serious, fortunately ).
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    Quote Originally Posted by ROS View Post
    They called it the "Gauntlet?" I wonder if that was an intimidation trick on the part of your PTD instructor. :D Our PTD instructors referred to it as "TSD", which I think means "tactical scenario drill." It was one HECK of a work out. I won't go into too much detail in an open forum, but it had several stations with each having a different DT skill you have to perform, with red and blue lights flashing and loud heavy metal music going. It was insane! I don't know if we had anyone puke, but know we had a couple have to go to the health unit afterwards (nothing too serious, fortunately ).
    That is way beyond the intensity of talk regarding the old CITP training rituals. :eek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ROS View Post
    They called it the "Gauntlet?" I wonder if that was an intimidation trick on the part of your PTD instructor. :D Our PTD instructors referred to it as "TSD", which I think means "tactical scenario drill." It was one HECK of a work out. I won't go into too much detail in an open forum, but it had several stations with each having a different DT skill you have to perform, with red and blue lights flashing and loud heavy metal music going. It was insane! I don't know if we had anyone puke, but know we had a couple have to go to the health unit afterwards (nothing too serious, fortunately ).
    It is a FLETC standard now for all CITP students. Started 01/01/2007 and contines with each class since then. No pukers in my class.....a few hyperventilating, but all did well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDTerp07 View Post
    ...can you please post tips or things to be ready for in the USMS basic part?
    Quote Originally Posted by Joeyd6 View Post
    I am not sure if I would rather PT with them for 2 hours or be tied to a tree naked while being stoned.
    Yeah, you better get your mind right for USMS PT. Round is not a shape. :D

    Build your endurance, work out every muscle group, do a wide variety of strengthening exercises, show up on game day injury free and focused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stub View Post
    Yeah, you better get your mind right for USMS PT. Round is not a shape. :D

    Build your endurance, work out every muscle group, do a wide variety of strengthening exercises, show up on game day injury free and focused.
    Thank you!

    Do the USMS add on fitness sessions focus on running and bodyweight exercises such as burpees, squat thrusts, pushups, flutter kicks and the like?

    One thing I have been doing recently is a huge circuit of body weight movements trying to last 20-30 mins with as little rest as possible.

    I have taken several steps away from weight routines as I don't think they will do much for the task and goal at hand.

    Every DUSM I encounter stresses physical fitness. So I think that might be a sign:cool:

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    DUSM Academy

    I am new to this forum. I recently recieved a C.O. for the DUSM position in San Diego. I was wondering if anybody knows if DURING the CITP portion of the academy, do the U.S. Marshal Instuctors make the Marshal students do PT after hours or do they have to wait until after CITP portion is done.:confused:

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    Quote Originally Posted by boltman331 View Post
    I am new to this forum. I recently recieved a C.O. for the DUSM position in San Diego. I was wondering if anybody knows if DURING the CITP portion of the academy, do the U.S. Marshal Instuctors make the Marshal students do PT after hours or do they have to wait until after CITP portion is done.:confused:
    Welcome to RP and congratulations on the CO. SD is a great place to live and work.

    When I attended CITP/BDUSM, the USMS staff offered after hours PT sessions during CITP. They were voluntary and unpaid. Attendance was strongly encouraged for those in poor to average physical fitness. There were very few students that did not take advantage of the sessions. I arrived at FLETC in very good shape and I still found the voluntary sessions to be helpful in preparation for BDUSM. The sessions were typically offered once or twice a week.

    There were no after hours USMS PT sessions during BDUSM. We were smoked only during working hours.

    I'm not inferring that you are, but don't be the guy who thinks he is going to get in shape while attending CITP.
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    Thanks for the helpful info. I don't plan on being that guy tries to get in shape at the academy. I've been stepping up my running program to about 14 to 17 miles a week and doing more calisthenic exercises than weights. I hope to be in top shape when I go to the academy.
    I just wanted to know what to expect from the academy. The mindset of having to get a beating from the U.S. Marshal instructors for 7 to 8 weeks versus 17 1/2 weeks straight is big difference.

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