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[glockpacker]

Thanks for the heads up on the FPS vs OI. However, it almost makes me want to apply to that and see if it goes any faster : ) Maybe about the time I get an offer from ICE I will have enough time to retire from my current job and ICE can be my second career.

[Rugby]

Does anyone know what type of job an S/A would be doing in the FPS 1811 (ICE) position?

[ElGuapo]

A lot of rumors are swirling over at 911 about this application process. Based on the evidence from them and from glockpacker's friend, this is what it sounds like to me:

1. Packets are going out first to those who scored highest on the exam, regardless of location.

2. Those individuals will be interviewed first, and probably very soon.

3. Another wave of packets will go to a group of the next-highest scoring applicants, who will then be interviewed.

4. This will repeat until all those who passed the exam have been sent a pre-employment packet.

Perhaps not all that send in the packet will be interviewed. They may just choose the top applicants based on the exam score and the paperwork. This isn't gospel, I'm just thinking with my keyboard.

[TXICE]

A lot of rumors are swirling over at 911 about this application process. Based on the evidence from them and from glockpacker's friend, this is what it sounds like to me:

1. Packets are going out first to those who scored highest on the exam, regardless of location.

2. Those individuals will be interviewed first, and probably very soon.

3. Another wave of packets will go to a group of the next-highest scoring applicants, who will then be interviewed.

4. This will repeat until all those who passed the exam have been sent a pre-employment packet.

Perhaps not all that send in the packet will be interviewed. They may just choose the top applicants based on the exam score and the paperwork. This isn't gospel, I'm just thinking with my keyboard.

There is also a rumor that those who scored under a 90 will NOT be interviewed and will be forced to retest next year. I hope that your info is correct and that they will get to us who scored in the 80's later down the line and not require us to retest. We passed the exam...period. This has never been about scores, even the NOR says its pass/fail. I hope we arent left out in the cold on this one.

[twnkl]

I think it's all hearsay!

Does anybody have proof that this is even a test score??? Has anybody talked to a reliable source who said yes, even though we say pass/fail we score the tests anyway???

On my NOR, its labeled RATING not TEST SCORE!!!
I think everybody is jumping the gun on this one and rumors have taken over and making everyone paranoid. My guess is that the RANKING score has more to do with the initial application and your background in education, experience, criminal history (if any), veteran's preference, etc.
Absolutely no fact there, just my opinion!!!! But it makes sense to me!

First, there were only suppose to be about 1,000 applicants/pins for the last test. How do they go from 1,000 and suddenly test and have the materials abailable to test the rumored 3,000 people.

My point is to learn to take the facts from the forums but remember most people posting on these forums are NOT current ICE 1811's! Theres a lot of speculation and not enough facts! It is a difficult process because there is no contact, or communication - so you have to rely on discussion forums to get any information.

Just something to think about!

A lot of rumors are swirling over at 911 about this application process. Based on the evidence from them and from glockpacker's friend, this is what it sounds like to me:

1. Packets are going out first to those who scored highest on the exam, regardless of location.

2. Those individuals will be interviewed first, and probably very soon.

3. Another wave of packets will go to a group of the next-highest scoring applicants, who will then be interviewed.

4. This will repeat until all those who passed the exam have been sent a pre-employment packet.

Perhaps not all that send in the packet will be interviewed. They may just choose the top applicants based on the exam score and the paperwork. This isn't gospel, I'm just thinking with my keyboard.

[rix031]

I think it's all hearsay!

Does anybody have proof that this is even a test score??? Has anybody talked to a reliable source who said yes, even though we say pass/fail we score the tests anyway???

On my NOR, its labeled RATING not TEST SCORE!!!
I think everybody is jumping the gun on this one and rumors have taken over and making everyone paranoid. My guess is that the RANKING score has more to do with the initial application and your background in education, experience, criminal history (if any), veteran's preference, etc.
Absolutely no fact there, just my opinion!!!! But it makes sense to me!

First, there were only suppose to be about 1,000 applicants/pins for the last test. How do they go from 1,000 and suddenly test and have the materials abailable to test the rumored 3,000 people.

My point is to learn to take the facts from the forums but remember most people posting on these forums are NOT current ICE 1811's! Theres a lot of speculation and not enough facts! It is a difficult process because there is no contact, or communication - so you have to rely on discussion forums to get any information.

Just something to think about!

check your application manager. your test score is posted there. if you cannot log in, contact dhc. at this moment, packets are going out to those who have scored 90+. this is a reality, not a rumor. will everyone that "passed" the test and received an "eligible" rating be interviewed? probably, sooner or later. personally, i dont believe they will make anyone that "passed" the test retake it, but that is my opinion.

[twnkl]

Like I said, I have checked my NOR! And, it has a RANKING not a test score. I can care less about the ranking, I've already gone through the process, passed my interviews, background and sitting in T&S.

If you don't mind me asking, what source OTHER THAN A FORUM told you that "packets are going out to those who have scored 90+"?

check your application manager. your test score is posted there. if you cannot log in, contact dhc. at this moment, packets are going out to those who have scored 90+. this is a reality, not a rumor. will everyone that "passed" the test and received an "eligible" rating be interviewed? probably, sooner or later. personally, i dont believe they will make anyone that "passed" the test retake it, but that is my opinion.

[Maverick24]

I think we can all agree the process is a complete mess right now. Even the HR people in Dallas seem to be giving different answers. In my group (sept 07') we are still waiting on our TO's. First it was March, then Jun/Jul. Now the latest is "in a few months". And now that CASS is gone there is no way to check progress anymore except app manager (which only gives results up to the interview). Trust me, you guys waiting on initial packets arent the only ones confused right now!

[Big Sexy]

My point is to learn to take the facts from the forums but remember most people posting on these forums are NOT current ICE 1811's!

Am an ICE OI 1811. Truth be told, there's only so much input we have to give on the subject of hiring. Unless that person is a recruiter, we normally don't keep up with recruiting trends, numbers, etc. On occasion BIG will come across some info, that he gladly shares, if he can share it.

Baring that, your best information may come from networking amongst yourselves.

[rix031]

Like I said, I have checked my NOR! And, it has a RANKING not a test score. I can care less about the ranking, I've already gone through the process, passed my interviews, background and sitting in T&S.

If you don't mind me asking, what source OTHER THAN A FORUM told you that "packets are going out to those who have scored 90+"?

settle down twikl toes! you first wrote you received a "rating" and now you are saying, "ranking." are you sure you know what you are trying to say? i am simply stating that in application manager, you will see (2) n.o.r.'s on it. one will have an "eligible" rating and the other will have a score. obviously, it doesnt really pertain to you because you are finished with the process. as far as "sources" of mine or anyone, i think you need to use your investigative skills and read between the lines a bit. deduct the complete b.s. and the extreme overzealousness and there lies the reality. like bigsexy said, actual facts are very difficult to obtain, at least in writing. i am on a first name basis with my recruiter and he gets alot of his info from the forums! if multiple persons are receiving packets that have scored over 90 on the test and those below 90 have not, here is the example of reading between the lines.

[twnkl]

If we want to get petty it's t-w-n-k-l.

Just as I thought - no credible source!!! :rolleyes:
I was simply asking you a simple question, relax a little! Your condenscending remarks only exhibit arrogance - not a good characteristic of a federal agent

settle down twikl toes! you first wrote you received a "rating" and now you are saying, "ranking." are you sure you know what you are trying to say? i am simply stating that in application manager, you will see (2) n.o.r.'s on it. one will have an "eligible" rating and the other will have a score. obviously, it doesnt really pertain to you because you are finished with the process. as far as "sources" of mine or anyone, i think you need to use your investigative skills and read between the lines a bit. deduct the complete b.s. and the extreme overzealousness and there lies the reality. like bigsexy said, actual facts are very difficult to obtain, at least in writing. i am on a first name basis with my recruiter and he gets alot of his info from the forums! if multiple persons are receiving packets that have scored over 90 on the test and those below 90 have not, here is the example of reading between the lines.

[glockpacker]

Alright - Here are my observations. On application manager I have 2 NORs. The first one was following the written test and was simply a rating of "eligible" at each of the pay grades I applied for - a simple pass/fail.

Then I received a preemployment packet and was required to send in resume, and a few other forms about myself. I then received a second NOR a week and a half after submitting the packet. This NOR is almost identical to the first one following the written test except this one has a "ranking" followed by a number at each pay grade I applied for. (ie: 07 - followed by a numerical amount; and 09 - followed by the same numerical amount) I can only assume that this "score" is based upon the answers given in my preemployment packet. Had I qualified for the veteran's preference then I would have gotten a point bump based upon that (I THINK???). I don't know what the biggest number of points that can be given are, I just hope its out of 100 and NOT 200 I really doubt that the points are tied to the test (and if they are then the test is only part of being assigned a rank, in addition to experience and education) - I think this because I received a preemployment packet and submitted it BEFORE I was assigned a rank.

But like all of you I don't know any of this to be true - I choose to believe that the test is just a hurtle to be cleared and the packets are simply going out in random waves. Unfortunately that also means that our future careers are in the hands of a GS-05 file clerk who is juggling 500 applications and packets and just happened to send mine out before leaving for a 3 week vacation. I really hope mine doesn't fall between the file cabinet and the wall.

[glockpacker]

Alright - Here are my observations. On application manager I have 2 NORs. The first one was following the written test and was simply a rating of "eligible" at each of the pay grades I applied for - a simple pass/fail.

Then I received a preemployment packet and was required to send in resume, and a few other forms about myself. I then received a second NOR a week and a half after submitting the packet. This NOR is almost identical to the first one following the written test except this one has a "ranking" followed by a number at each pay grade I applied for. (ie: 07 - followed by a numerical amount; and 09 - followed by the same numerical amount) I can only assume that this "score" is based upon the answers given in my preemployment packet. Had I qualified for the veteran's preference then I would have gotten a point bump based upon that (I THINK???). I don't know what the biggest number of points that can be given are, I just hope its out of 100 and NOT 200 I really doubt that the points are tied to the test (and if they are then the test is only part of being assigned a rank, in addition to experience and education) - I think this because I received a preemployment packet and submitted it BEFORE I was assigned a rank.

But like all of you I don't know any of this to be true - I choose to believe that the test is just a hurtle to be cleared and the packets are simply going out in random waves. Unfortunately that also means that our future careers are in the hands of a GS-05 file clerk who is juggling 500 applications and packets and just happened to send mine out before leaving for a 3 week vacation. I really hope mine doesn't fall between the file cabinet and the wall.

My mistake - it was a "Rating" I received not a ranking. (not that it should matter).


Spec Code Spec Title Grade Rating
001 Criminal Investigator 07 XX.X (numbers)

[Big Sexy]

arrogance - not a good characteristic of a federal agent

BIG SEXY has to ask. What qualifies you to declare what is and isn't a good characteristic of a federal agent? :confused:

[twnkl]

Are you serious?
Is arrogance a good characteristic for any PROFESSIONAL to possess? I think not.

But to answer your question, what qualifies me to declare that? Nothing more than what qualifies you in asking such a senseless question.

So if you'd like to get back to the discussion at hand, let's........

BIG SEXY has to ask. What qualifies you to declare what is and isn't a good characteristic of a federal agent? :confused: