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    Local job required before federal?

    Is it required to work as a police officer before you can get a federal job (1811)? (ATF, DEA, ICE, etc.) Has anyone gotten hired with just a degree out of college?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiltmode1 View Post
    Is it required to work as a police officer before you can get a federal job (1811)? (ATF, DEA, ICE, etc.)
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    Has anyone gotten hired with just a degree out of college?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Sexy
    Quote Originally Posted by tiltmode1
    Is it required to work as a police officer before you can get a federal job (1811)? (ATF, DEA, ICE, etc.)
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    Has anyone gotten hired with just a degree out of college?
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    That about sums it up.


    Is it "required" to be a local or state LEO before becoming a federal agent? No. I've met some who were previously corporate fraud investigators, HR managers, professional athletes, military, teachers, businesspersons, accountants, etc. However, being a cop first will give you excellent training, and allow you the opportunity to do criminal investigations that may be relevant experience when applying to the feds later.

    While there are certainly those out there who have been hired just after revieving their degree, it's not exactly the rule, but rather the exception. Also, depends on if your degree is in a field in high-demand by the agency (like Computer Science degrees have been lately with FBI, or accounting degrees were for DEA before their current hiring freeze). Just because it does and can happen does not mean it is likely to happen. Those hired with "just a degree" likely have other factors - too many to list here, but include foreign language skills, previous work experience, leadership positions, who you know on the inside, internships, etc.- brought to the table that help give them a competative edge.
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    I'm right out of Grad school with at Masters in Criminal Justice. Right now, as I'm typing this I'm in the middle of nowhere (Artesia, NM) at FLETC with the FAMS.

    So you certainly can get a Fed LEO job right out of college and with out any prior LEO experience.

    Best of Luck to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiltmode1 View Post
    Is it required to work as a police officer before you can get a federal job (1811)? (ATF, DEA, ICE, etc.) Has anyone gotten hired with just a degree out of college?
    Having some type of job skill is always a plus, but the federal govt. is a strange machine and sometimes they hire people straight out of college. There is no method to the madness and if you ever figure out the fomula let me know.

    I can tell you from my experience, that there are thousands of applicants for that one position, so you should have something "Sexy" to have your resume stand out.
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    I was hired as an 1811 w/o local LE experience.

    I had a degree and some military, though.

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    God no. I'd trust local PD over federal any day of the week. The only benefit for being federal is I guess prestige and money.

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    It's not required to have state or local experience before getting a federal 1811 job, but it sure helps in getting hired, and in not having to start out at zero, experience wise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJGUY View Post
    God no. I'd trust local PD over federal any day of the week. The only benefit for being federal is I guess prestige and money.

    Maybe I am reading to much into this but can you explain your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJGUY View Post
    God no. I'd trust local PD over federal any day of the week. The only benefit for being federal is I guess prestige and money.
    Another stupid comment, from it seems another poser. Let's see, you're a CBPO, a Fed., yet you trash talk us, which includes yourself.

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    As an ICE S/A, BIG can't help but wonder why you would want to join us. Since there is no benefit from it, besides the money and prestige.

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    Any new cbp person of age should apply to every FLEO job possible... If you think you qualify for FBI go for it. Depending on your prior experience, you may have to be with cbp for atleast 2 years b/f you qualify for a PIN# for ICE S/A. But send your resume to an ICE recruiter anyway, you have nothing to loose.

    FLETC with cbp is extremely fun, but once you're at your port; back to reality, which is usually an eye-opening experience and something you may not want to do for 30x years.
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    Hey NJGuy, are you currently a cbp officeer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJGUY View Post
    God no. I'd trust local PD over federal any day of the week. The only benefit for being federal is I guess prestige and money.

    Glad you just made a MULE out of yourself! Nice to see you you don't trust YOURSELF, you PRESTIGOUS AND RICH FEDERAL EMPLOYEE!
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