Advice?

[limeade]

Thanks , this is all for future pondering. I don't expect, nor do I want a job with the Feds or Local at this time, right now my concern is College and my Wife. This is all really to help me decide what I want to start going after, currently I have 2 to 3 and half years left of college depending on if I go for my MBA.

On another note, I would think that with the CIA, travel over seas is a real possible thing, and maybe even with the FBI, but are you saying all agencies like ATF and DEA agents are also subject to getting moved over seas?

[Nole795]

Thanks
On another note, I would think that with the CIA, travel over seas is a real possible thing, and maybe even with the FBI, but are you saying all agencies like ATF and DEA agents are also subject to getting moved over seas?

Normally you would do your beginning years in the states. Overseas assignment is very competitive, unless your with the few agencies such as Diplomatic Security whose mission involves being in foreign sectors.

Understand something about the CIA, it is not a law enforcement agency, it is an intelligence agency. They are two seperate entities.

Hope this helps.

[limeade]

Thanks, as of right now, I think I'm going to go after an ATF SA job. But I'm still open to any SA position.

[Group9]

Off the FBI's we page: (Try and guess who arrested this guy).

THE LONG ARM OF THE LAW
FBI International Presence Key to Bringing Terrorists to Justice
02/06/04

On February 7, 1995--eight years ago this Friday--Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and other plots, was located and arrested in Islamabad, Pakistan. He was immediately flown back to New York City, escorted by an FBI arrest team, and arraigned on charges relating to the World Trade Center bombing. Several months later, he was charged in the "Manila Air" bombing case. And in January 1998, he was sentenced to serve 240 years, plus another life sentence, in an American jail for his crimes.

How was this slippery international terrorist tracked down? How on earth could he have ended up in an American jail?

It's actually an amazing story, and one that's all about police and agents across the world working together for justice and the common good.

Right off the bat, you may be wondering how FBI Agents get to know and work with police in different countries. In fact, one of the most important ways is by working as a Legal Attaché in U.S. embassy offices in different countries. Right now we have some 200 FBI employees in 45 Legal Attaché offices who directly work with their colleagues in that geographical area on both their cases and our cases. That builds a lot of trust over time.

So in the case of Ramzi Yousef and his co-conspirators, we weren't just making long distance telephone calls to our colleagues in Pakistan and Jordan and Manila and Tokyo and all the other places his trail took us: we had our Legal Attachés there, on the ground, working shoulder to shoulder with them. Information flowed around the world, from Legal Attachés to Washington to our U.S. colleagues and back; among and between a score of international agencies and all their local police departments.

Ultimately, a sighting on a street in Pakistan was linked to bits of evidence in dozens of other cities and countries. Pakistani police identified and arrested Yousef, then arranged for FBI Agents to take custody and leave the country with the prisoner. Teamwork.

Success? When you think about it, success in putting Yousef behind bars was not, in fact, an "FBI success." It was an international law enforcement success--the best kind of success to have in our globalized world of crime and terrorism.

Sequel? Today partnerships among international agencies are stronger and better. And the FBI has people on the ground to work with our colleagues in twice as many locations as we had when Youself was arrested...with Congressional approval to open more in the coming months. Stay tuned for future stories....

Headline Archives


Now, if you were to read that article, who would you think caught Yousef? If you said "FBI", you would be wrong. It was DEA agents and Pakistani officers who found him and hooked him up, so sometimes, you can make a terrorist arrest, even if you are not in the FBI.

[Switchback]

Off the FBI's we page: (Try and guess who arrested this guy).

THE LONG ARM OF THE LAW
FBI International Presence Key to Bringing Terrorists to Justice
02/06/04

On February 7, 1995--eight years ago this Friday--Ramzi Yousef, mastermind of the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center and other plots, was located and arrested in Islamabad, Pakistan. He was immediately flown back to New York City, escorted by an FBI arrest team, and arraigned on charges relating to the World Trade Center bombing. Several months later, he was charged in the "Manila Air" bombing case. And in January 1998, he was sentenced to serve 240 years, plus another life sentence, in an American jail for his crimes.

How was this slippery international terrorist tracked down? How on earth could he have ended up in an American jail?

It's actually an amazing story, and one that's all about police and agents across the world working together for justice and the common good.

Right off the bat, you may be wondering how FBI Agents get to know and work with police in different countries. In fact, one of the most important ways is by working as a Legal Attaché in U.S. embassy offices in different countries. Right now we have some 200 FBI employees in 45 Legal Attaché offices who directly work with their colleagues in that geographical area on both their cases and our cases. That builds a lot of trust over time.

So in the case of Ramzi Yousef and his co-conspirators, we weren't just making long distance telephone calls to our colleagues in Pakistan and Jordan and Manila and Tokyo and all the other places his trail took us: we had our Legal Attachés there, on the ground, working shoulder to shoulder with them. Information flowed around the world, from Legal Attachés to Washington to our U.S. colleagues and back; among and between a score of international agencies and all their local police departments.

Ultimately, a sighting on a street in Pakistan was linked to bits of evidence in dozens of other cities and countries. Pakistani police identified and arrested Yousef, then arranged for FBI Agents to take custody and leave the country with the prisoner. Teamwork.

Success? When you think about it, success in putting Yousef behind bars was not, in fact, an "FBI success." It was an international law enforcement success--the best kind of success to have in our globalized world of crime and terrorism.

Sequel? Today partnerships among international agencies are stronger and better. And the FBI has people on the ground to work with our colleagues in twice as many locations as we had when Youself was arrested...with Congressional approval to open more in the coming months. Stay tuned for future stories....

Headline Archives


Now, if you were to read that article, who would you think caught Yousef? If you said "FBI", you would be wrong. It was DEA agents and Pakistani officers who found him and hooked him up, so sometimes, you can make a terrorist arrest, even if you are not in the FBI.

Whenever I read about the FBI MAKING an arrest, UNLESS PRVEN OTHERWISE, I assume someone else out there actually tracked the subject down and slapped the cuffs on.

[Kimble]

Whenever I read about the FBI MAKING an arrest, UNLESS PRVEN OTHERWISE, I assume someone else out there actually tracked the subject down and slapped the cuffs on.

LoL... that reminds me of a press release from CNN.com I saw recently:

FBI: Border face-off involved men in Mexican Army uniforms

Tuesday, January 24, 2006; Posted: 3:48 p.m. EST (20:48 GMT)


SIERRA BLANCA, Texas (AP) -- Men dressed as Mexican Army soldiers, apparent drug suspects and Texas law enforcement officers faced off near the U.S.-Mexican border after three suspicious SUVs attempted to flee state authorities, officials said Tuesday.

Andrea Simmons, an agency spokeswoman in El Paso, told The Associated Press that Texas Department of Public Safety troopers chased three SUVs, believing they were carrying drugs, to the banks of the Rio Grande during Monday's incident.

Men dressed in Mexican military uniforms or camouflage were on the U.S. side of the border in Texas, she said.

Simmons said the FBI was not involved and referred requests for further details to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. [ROS's notes: So WHY mention the FBI if they had nothing to do with it? :confused: ]

The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin of Ontario, California, reported Tuesday that the incident included an armed standoff involving the Mexican military and suspected drug smugglers. The incident follows a story in the Bulletin on January 15 that said the Mexican military had crossed into the United States more than 200 times since 1996.

In a news conference, Rick Glancey of the Texas Border Sheriff's Coalition, said three Hudspeth County deputies and at least two Texas Department of Public Safety troopers squared off against at least 10 heavily armed men from the Mexican side of the Rio Grande.

U.S. officials who pursued three fleeing SUVs to the Mexican border saw what appeared to be a Mexican military Humvee help one of the SUVs when it got stuck in the river, he said.

When that didn't work, a group of men dressed in civilian clothes started unloading what appeared to be bundles of marijuana from the SUV, and the stuck vehicle was then torched, he said. A second SUV had a flat tire and was left behind in the United States and its occupant ran across the border, he said.

Glancey said he could not confirm whether the armed men seen at the site were Mexican Army, police officers, or drug dealers, and would not detail what markings deputies may have seen on the men's uniforms or the Humvee.

Chief Deputy Mike Doyal of the Hudspeth County Sheriff's Department said that Mexican army personnel had several mounted machine guns on the ground more than 200 yards inside the U.S. border, the Daily Bulletin newspaper reported earlier.

"It's been so bred into everyone not to start an international incident with Mexico that it's been going on for years," Doyal said. "When you're up against mounted machine guns, what can you do? Who wants to pull the trigger first? Certainly not us."

Hudspeth County Sheriff Arvin West, whose officers were involved in a similar incident last year, said he is certain that Mexican authorities know who was involved.

After the newspaper reported on Mexican military crossings earlier this month, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said the report was overblown and most of the incursions were just mistakes.

In eastern California, Arizona and New Mexico, the U.S.-Mexico border is largely unmarked. But in Texas, the Rio Grande separates the two countries and even when dry, is a riverbed about 200 feet wide.

In November, Doyal said Border Patrol agents in the border town of Fort Hancock called for help after confronting more than six men dressed in Mexican military uniforms. The men allegedly were trying to bring more than three tons of marijuana across the Rio Grande, Doyal told the newspaper.

[limeade]

LOL you guys are tough on the FBI, good news bit.

[Dalice]

We're not tough on them. They just seem to be everywhere whenever something happens. Really, When you think of border issues, the FBI should NOT be the first agency to come to mind. How about the Border Patrol?

Of course, they are not going to no anything about an incident like this. It involves agencies that deal with BORDER issues. The FBI does not for the most part, terrorism type cases excluded. They should think ICE, CBP, or BP but I guess we don't have a good a PR section as the FBI does.

[Swat1]

The Media in most cases assume that ALL Federal LE agencies are the FBI. If the FBI is not involved they will either call you the FBI anyway or say Federal Agents, US Officials or some other broad term.

I can't tell you how many times news agencies have reported on one of my cases and attributed it to the FBI. On one fairly significant Child Molester/Porn arrest the neighbors called the media after we arrested the guy and started the search warrant. A local news media outlet showed up and filmed us with our "US Customs" and "POLICE ICE" raid jackets on etc, yet when the story ran they put up the FBI Seal graphic and said, "FBI agents arrested...."

They had gone to the US District Court and got a copy of my search warrant which clearly says who I work for and still attributed the whole thing to the FBI.:rolleyes:

My experience is, the media rarely if ever gets it right.

Swat1*

[Goodguys]

The Media in most cases assume that ALL Federal LE agencies are the FBI.

Much agreed. I've been a FLEO for 2 years now. Not FBI. I have nothing against them and several friends are Bureau agents. Anyway. When I talk to other non-LEO friends I inevitably get "How's the FBI going?" I got tired of correcting them, so I just play along. :rolleyes: And how many times I've knocked on someones door, identified myself, and asked to speak with a resident; only to have them say, "Honey, come to the door it's the FBI." Media, TV, and Movies :rolleyes: