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    For all LE federal agencies

    Do they do traffics stops? Do they have the same knowledge, get trainned like local police agencies how to drive a car fast? Do they have sirens and have red /blue
    lights in theirs cars?



    -I am thinking that they have unmarked vehicles in this case(I don't know if they have any marked vehicles, do they?) ;)
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    Yes, probably not and yes.

    We do often do felony stops, but not "traffic stops" per se. We get extensive training in vehicle stops. As if it is the same as a local LE, I highly doubt it. We don't have to deal with the "typical stop" like grandma or some kids on the way to school. Ours are, pretty much, felony stops only. We often try to have a marked unit do the stop. However, for a variety of reasons, this may not always be feasible/desireable.

    I also imagine that the locals may have better driving training. Ours was pretty minimal in CI school at FLETC. However, soe of our drivers in SOG get some extremely good driving training... high speed as well as offensive driving (high speed,metal on metal vehicle disabling).

    Most, if not all, of our cars have red and blues in them. I have personally seen everything from a Ford Ranger, Ford F150, Chevy Impala SS, to a Cadillac Deville all equipped with emergency equipment (red/blue, strobes in the turn signals, wig wags... the works).
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    Border Patrol conduct traffic stops all the time. All the vehicles are marked with lights and sirens. Pursuits are generally discouraged unless loss of life is imminent. They are extensively trained in this area and routinely conduct stops for local PD/County units if asked.

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    Traffic Stops

    The Bureau of Indian Affairs (the Original Bueau) and Tribal Law enforcement Agencies do Risk and High Rish Vehicle stops. RPC (Radio Patrol Cars) are equipted with red/blue lights, siren, take down lights the works.

    BIA and Tribal Law enforcement enforce traffic codes from speeding, improper display, reckless driving and other traffic related offenses.

    Hope this helps

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    Is the NY/NJ Port Authority a federal or local LE?
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    port authority is a local law enforcement agency.
    they are VERY well paid, with alot of overtime most make 70-100k a year.
    they just tested a month or so ago BTW

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    BTW=By the way.

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    i'd never stop for an unmarked ford f-150 or caddie with lights. call a marked car to get on my six or a high speed chase is on.

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    Is that right?

    Well I guess you could kiss your' naval career goodbye if that is the case. You need to reasses your' decision making skills if you would make the decision to flee (high speed at that) if an unmarked unit tried to pull you over.

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    Well, I KIND OF agree with rare. I wouldn't pull over for an unmarked car, but I wouldn't get into a high speed chase with them either.
    There are crazy people out there who dress like cops and put some sort of light in their cars. When the person pulls over, the "cop" robs them, rapes them, whatever. I am very concerned about that happening, so I see his point. I would just try to find a marked car, or, failing that, I would pull into a convenience store and go inside to wait for the "cop" to come in. That way I am around other people while I check his credentials.

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    Rare & Stump,

    For what it is worth, most of our stops would entail trapping. Two cars would trap the car at a stop light or stop sign, then the assault team dismounts. This leaves little room for anything but compliance.

    Also, as SWAT said, you may want to rethink that. Our state troopers often use unmarked mustangs and firebirds.

    If you are concerned about your safety with an unmarked vehicle pulling you over you may want to do something along the lines of the following: Put your hazards on and slow slightly to let the unit know you see them. Then pull over in the FIRST well lit, high-traffic area you come to. The LEO may be a bit agitated, but explain why you did it and things should be fine. However, not pulling over is a recipe for disaster.
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    That trapping you speak of is the same way some of our carjackers do it. That is why I always leave room for me to get my car out of a spot when I am stopped at a light, etc.

    Didn't you read my whole post? I said I would pull into a convenience store if I couldn't find a marked vehicle. Those are every 1/2 mile or so around here, so it wouldn't be like I would be traipsing all over the countryside. I have the right to protect myself, especially since most people think women are easier prey. I believe we already had this discussion in an earlier thread, and I did say that I would let the cop know I was going to pull over by waving my gun out the window at him.. errr, wait , no, by motioning to him, putting hazards on, driving slowly, etc.

    Of course, I know what our unmarked cars look like, and know most of the cops, so it wouldn't be an issue for me here anyway.

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