Can DoD Police Carry Concealed Weapons Off-Duty?

[RAPD1194]

Can Department of Defense Police Officers carry concealed weapons off-duty and intervene in a situation if necessary? There were DoD Police Officers at Fort Bliss, Texas when I was an M.P. in the Army and I am wondering what the extent of their authority was/is. They mainly worked near the hospital.

[superc]

Can Department of Defense Police Officers carry concealed weapons off-duty and intervene in a situation if necessary? There were DoD Police Officers at Fort Bliss, Texas when I was an M.P. in the Army and I am wondering what the extent of their authority was/is. They mainly worked near the hospital.

It depends. If they were base DOD police their primary authority came from the Provost Marshal and is usually limited to on duty, on the base, and while in on duty transit, but they might have also been deputized locally (some bases seek that). Likewise, if they had another Federal authority package (i.e., a delegation or deputation) besides just Title 10 USC, they may be carrying under that too.

[gijoeyl33]

as stated here, and stated well, if they had authority somewhere else to do so they could. to add to this, if they did not have deputation somewhere else, they usually dont carry off duty but could be authorized to do so. if they have no deputation if they carry off duty they still do not have any law enforcement authority as they would fall under the posse comitatus act. they would just be normal citizen interviening with a gun. another is example is the amry CID agents who are feds, and carry off duty, but dont have arrest power on a civilian for a civilian offense outside the gate

It depends. If they were base DOD police their primary authority came from the Provost Marshal and is usually limited to on duty, on the base, and while in on duty transit, but they might have also been deputized locally (some bases seek that). Likewise, if they had another Federal authority package (i.e., a delegation or deputation) besides just Title 10 USC, they may be carrying under that too.

[ngcsubutterbar]

I can answer that to GA. State law, told this in an ATF class, even teh deputies there had it coming from left field on them.



Active duty military personel are allowed to carry like a cop in this state. Bars, schools, etc. Law wise anyhow, of course their own UCMJ might say something about it.

[superc]

I can answer that to GA. State law, told this in an ATF class, even teh deputies there had it coming from left field on them.



Active duty military personel are allowed to carry like a cop in this state. Bars, schools, etc. Law wise anyhow, of course their own UCMJ might say something about it.

Active duty military personnel, reservists, employees of the DOD, and contractors of the DOD may be issued and carry firearms and other devices as directed by the Secretary of Defense, pursuant to regulations and directives promulgated by him. That's in Title 10 USC. What usually has happened is it was all delegated to the different branch Secretarys to make the rules. They in turn delegated to the subordinate commands and bases. In short Chain of Command decides. Theefore one base commander or Provost Marshal will decide one way and another base commander will decide something else.

[Norm357]

Superc, ngcsubutterbar is correct. In Ga. militery personal do not need a permit to carry concealed weapons. That is how it is written up in state law. He is not talking while they are "on the clock". Only when off duty.

Here is the State Code on this.


16-11-130.

(a) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any of the following persons if such persons are employed in the offices listed below or when authorized by federal or state law, regulations, or order:

(1) Peace officers, as such term is defined in paragraph (11) of Code Section 16-1-3, and retired peace officers so long as they remain certified whether employed by the state or a political subdivision of the state or another state or a political subdivision of another state but only if such other state provides a similar privilege for the peace officers of this state;

(2) Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of correctional institutions, jails, or other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense;

(3) Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States;

(4) Persons employed in fulfilling defense contracts with the government of the United States or agencies thereof when possession of the weapon is necessary for manufacture, transport, installation, and testing under the requirements of such contract;

(5) District attorneys, investigators employed by and assigned to a district attorney´s office, assistant district attorneys, attorneys employed by the Prosecuting Attorneys´ Council of Georgia, and any retired district attorney, assistant district attorney, or district attorneys investigator if such retired employee is receiving benefits under Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county or municipal retirement system;

(6) State court solicitors-general; investigators employed by and assigned to a state court solicitor-general´s office; assistant state court solicitors-general; the corresponding personnel of any city court expressly continued in existence as a city court pursuant to Article VI, Section X, Paragraph I, subparagraph (5) of the Constitution; and the corresponding personnel of any civil court expressly continued as a civil court pursuant to said provision of the Constitution;

(7) Those employees of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the members of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles to carry a weapon;

(8) The Attorney General and those members of his or her staff whom he or she specifically authorizes in writing to carry a weapon;

(9) Chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, and surveillance officers employed by and under the authority of the Department of Corrections pursuant to Article 2 of Chapter 8 of Title 42, known as the 'State-wide Probation Act,' when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation;

(10) Public safety directors of municipal corporations;

(11) Explosive ordnance disposal technicians, as such term is defined by Code Section 16-7-80, and persons certified as provided in Code Section 35-8-13 to handle animals trained to detect explosives, while in the performance of their duties;

(12) State and federal trial and appellate judges, full-time judges of municipal and city courts, and former state trial and appellate judges retired from their respective offices under state retirement;

(13) United States Attorneys and Assistant United States Attorneys;

(14) County medical examiners and coroners and their sworn officers employed by county government; and

(15) Clerks of the superior courts.

(b) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect persons who at the time of their retirement from service with the Department of Corrections were chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, or surveillance officers, when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation.

(c) Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any:

(1) Sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, or retired deputy sheriff if such retired deputy sheriff is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers´ Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47;

(2) Member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or retired member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation if such retired member or agent is receiving benefits under the Employees´ Retirement System;

(3) Full-time law enforcement chief executive engaging in the management of a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that is registered or certified by the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council; or retired law enforcement chief executive that formerly managed a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired law enforcement chief executive is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers´ Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system; or

(4) Police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that is registered or certified by the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, or retired police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired employee is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers´ Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system.

In addition, any such sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, retired deputy sheriff, active or retired law enforcement chief executive, or other law enforcement officer referred to in this subsection shall be authorized to carry a pistol or revolver on or off duty anywhere within the state and the provisions of Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to the carrying of such firearms.

(d) A prosecution based upon a violation of Code Section 16-11-126, 16-11-127, or 16-11-128 need not negative any exemptions.




It looks like most anyone who works for the government can CCW LOL.

[ngcsubutterbar]

(4) Persons employed in fulfilling defense contracts with the government of the United States or agencies thereof when possession of the weapon is necessary for manufacture, transport, installation, and testing under the requirements of such contract;

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lol

I guess that one is the one that covers the wackenhut guys with automatic weapons at SRS.