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    I'd have to concur w/ Mr. H (does "H" stand for Hornblower?) as well. We do have a long road ahead of us &, in my opinion, I think the demand for IT & linguistic skills will be needed at the Federal level for maybe even a generation or longer. The good ol' useless CJ degree won't cut it anymore. You'll always have the knuckle dragging gung ho types & you'll always have the techie geeks. I see in the near future, the LE community (local, state, & Federal) looking more & more for "hybrid" types of LE people: the snake-eating, 3 language speaking, techie nerd. If you notice, that's already what the Special Forces community already does. So ProfessorFrink if you can get some military SF experience in your resume, along with what others also suggested, by all means do it because us techie geeks would prefer to stay techie geeks! :D
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    Quote Originally Posted by wannabeetrp
    (Mr.H) You are dead right with respect to knowing languages especially Arabic languages, but you do not need to know these or have a degree to get into the Special Forces. Proving sufficient knowledge in certain languages may shorten SFQC. To get into SFAS is like any other military school. Recruiters are on military posts every few months and they are expanding their classes larger than ever before for SFAS. They are even offering a pre SFAS as of late to get people geared up for the real thing.

    I have posted this before, but as of last March, languages and Computer Science are the top 2 most sought after special skills (for the FBI). This will undoubtedly change by the time you are eligible to apply -- to the original poster.

    Yeah, I did not mean that knowing a relavent forign language is a requirement for SFAS, I was only saying that it gives you an edge over the other potential candidates. I heard about how the Army is taking civilian recuits and letting them tryout for SF (after a few prepatory courses).

    I agree with tunlrat that skills gained in the Special Forces would be extremely helpful in an LEO context. They teach you a foreign language, weapons skills, various technical skills, not to mention, people skills (look up FID and UW). Special Forces, I think, is the most useful and versitile spec ops group we have. In my opinion, they are much more practical than the SEALs (no offense to anyone). They have equal combat skills, plus the practical skills.

    I am sorry for posting this if you have no interest in joining the military.
    I think I speak for wannabeetrp and tunlrat as well when I say we would not post this unless we thought it were relavent.

    Note: When I say "Special Forces", I am referring to the U.S. Army Special Forces - aka the Green Berets. People often use the term "Special Forces" to incluse the SEALs, Rangers, or any elite military unit - this makes things very confusing. Blame the liberal media I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.H
    I heard about how the Army is taking civilian recuits and letting them tryout for SF (after a few prepatory courses).

    I agree with tunlrat that skills gained in the Special Forces would be extremely helpful in an LEO context. They teach you a foreign language, weapons skills, various technical skills, not to mention, people skills (look up FID and UW). Special Forces, I think, is the most useful and versitile spec ops group we have. In my opinion, they are much more practical than the SEALs (no offense to anyone). They have equal combat skills, plus the practical skills.
    Not sure about the civilians but they have added a pre SFAS course which is a 9-5 for a few weeks, but I have heard that it is just like pre Ranger but you can go home after 5...

    Even if you didn't want to go into LE if you are an 18D (SF medic) the training is intense. Your Q course is spending 18months training. Rotating 3 months classroom and 3 months in a hospital. When you get out with all your training you are basically a PA (Physicans Assistant), all you need is to pass your states exam and take a few more course which you can actually take while still on active duty. It is not unusual to see in Army hospitals your PA has the SF tab on his uniform and you are like scrathing you head, WTF?

    Sorry for hijacking the thread...

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    Yeah, SF is taking civilian recruits now. Read a bit it HERE .
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