Apology to ATF agents.

[Mr.H]

Hey guys, I want to say that I'm sorry for posting this:

From what I hear, the ATF is not really a private gun owner friendly organization. I have even heard them called the "American Gestapo". That's a bit exteme, but I would still keep my distance.

I think Switchback hit the nail when he pointed out that this statement was made in ignorance. I visit a lot of gun forums and that (my statement) just seems to be the word about the ATF. To tell you the truth, I've never even heard from them what makes them think what they do about the ATF. I admit that it is stupid to compare any person or orginization to the Gestapo without due reaserch and evidence.

I am not exacly sure why I said what I said. I think it may be a combination of things. I do love this country and the freedoms that define it. In my 18 years, I have seen a big increase in gun control as well as infringments and/or distortions of various Constitutional Rights. I guess I am a bit on edge and looking for people to blame; maybe that's why I accepted those other guy's opinions so readily. I don't expect that to get me off the hook and admit that any way you look at it, it mostly boils down to ignorance on my part. To those whose opnions of the ATF may have been influenced by my statement, I say again: It was not based upon any evidence or facts to my knowledge.

I am sorry that I have made this impressions on you guys. I will try to clear it up a bit. First of all, I actually want to go into federal law enforcement. I have great respect for LEOs as well as our troops. It is my understanding that they keep us safe that makes me want to both join them as well as think twice before degrading them.

Again I say that I am sincerely sorry for what I said. I do not expect this post to make things all better - I understand that there will still be some animosity, but here it is regardless. I am not at all trying to suck up, I just sincerely think this needed to be said and I would have said this all much sooner had I been aware of the situation.

Thanks,
Chris

[Mr.H]

I understand that there will still be some animosity...

Wow, that statment is holding true. I really got a slew of insults in the chat room.
I imagine there will be more to follow, so before things get heated up in this thread, I would like to extend my ap9ology to all that were offended by it. Wifeofadeputy pointed out to me how close-knit the LE comunity is, so I think the extension is in order.

One other thing, go back and look at the context in which I made the statement; at the time, I thought I was giving the threads author good advice. But as I pointed out, I wasn't even close. I think it is obvious that I really am not here to make enemies. If I were, I don't think I would be spending so much time making such an apology. I mean, we all say stupid things and people get over them. I see my error, I apologized for it, and I hope this isn't any different.

Some people have suggested that I make a new account and start fresh, but I don't really sweep the dirt under the rug; I would rather just tough it out and try to build my reputation back up.

[Group9]

Well, I'm not ATF, but I certainly think that you have showed a lot of character by coming back and saying this. I, for one, am impressed and I think you will find we are a forgiving and understanding bunch here.

[Mr.H]

Thank you Group9, I hope so. I really do like Real Police.

[Wifeofadeputy]

Just be sure not to let your foot find your mouth again.... maintain the respect and ask questions when you are unsure of something instead of making comments off the cuff and youll do fine.

[Norm357]

I think it took balls to make a public apoligy. Good on you.

[Mr.H]

Just be sure not to let your foot find your mouth again.... maintain the respect and ask questions when you are unsure of something instead of making comments off the cuff and youll do fine.

Good advice, I'll take it.

[JBT]

Mr.H-

I got your PM and have responded. I see where you were coming from and the members of RP, helped to clue you in. As I have said, educate yourself, ask questions, and make informed decisions. It took alot to own up and apologize, Lesson learned I am sure, good for you. If you have questions feel free to ask.

[Mr.H]

Mr.H-

I got your PM and have responded. I see where you were coming from and the members of RP, helped to clue you in. As I have said, educate yourself, ask questions, and make informed decisions. It took alot to own up and apologize, Lesson learned I am sure, good for you. If you have questions feel free to ask.

I got your PM, thanks man. And yes, lesson learned.

[massgrunt]

Well, since I never said anything stupid when I was 18, I will keep talking sh!t. :D

Stay off militia websites, you'll be fine.

[Mr.H]

Well, since I never said anything stupid when I was 18, I will keep talking sh!t. :D

Stay off militia websites, you'll be fine.

Ar15.com isn't a milita website, but I'll take your advice anyway.

[Jeff L]

Mr.H,

Please kindly submit rep to each member in this thread and we will consider your debt to the community repaid. :D

[Mr.H]

Mr.H,

Please kindly submit rep to each member in this thread and we will consider your debt to the community repaid. :D

Actually, I think I have. I did it in thanks of their (mostly) kind words.

[aussie1]

I like it. It takes courage to own up and admit a mistake. Good on you. Have a safe festive season!!

[Star]

Good job, Mr. H! All is forgiven here. Actually, Wifey and I got called into chat by several members when you said that. It took a lot of guts to admit your error. I believe that ALL Police Agencies have a purpose and I respect each and every one of them.

Anyway, you earned my respect, as well!