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    Bia

    I have read the job descriptions for an 1811 with Bureau of Indian Affairs, but what are the conditions of the job? And what are the job prospects? I have seen them posted on USAjobs forever now!!

    Thanks for all responses.

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    If i were you i would direct your question to Tomahawk, ask he is chief of training for the BIA, etc....i think his email address is on his profile

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    Thanks Jenna. I just found this board today and need to learn who everyone is.

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    It's cool.....he's a great guy....(handsome too!!).. look up tomahawk134 and you'll find him!

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    Glock Guy:

    Welcome to Realpolice. As for your question

    The Criminal Investigator (Special Agent) 1811 job description is to conduct investigations in violations of the Title 18 of the United States Code and Tribal Codes. Our SA work hand in hand with the FBI and other Federal Law Enforcement Agencies in investigation and case presentation to the US Attorney Office.

    There are currently 33 duty stations for SA's in the BIA. The reason you see the jobs listed for so long is, many of the positions have been advertise for some time, with little or no qualified applicants. Many of our openings are being filled by uniform patrol officers as promotions. We have lost quite a few SA to the FAA. Our agency has over 100 SA working on 93 reservations in the US.

    Job prosects are excellent and I would encourage you to apply for one of the vacant positions.

    I hope this helps, and let me thank by Nez Perce Sister
    (Jenna) for her insight and support.

    If I can be of any assistance, let me know at
    ipachief@fiacom.com

    tomahawk134

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    Thankies, Handsome...sorry i have missed u lately

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    Correct me if I am wrong

    As a LEO in Indian Country I applied for several of the 1811 openings and found out from Josie Montoya that you must meet one of the following requirements for any of the continuous open positions.

    You must either be:

    A current federal employee

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    a qualified Indian candidate verifiable through a BIA form 4432.

    Therefore, as a non-Indian LEO with six years of Indian Country experience, an FBI Violent Crime Task Force member (specific to Indian Country) with the BIA Jurisdiction in Indian Country Course, CITP, etc and recruited by Darren Cruzan for a position with the Blackfeet agency in Montana I am not eligible (much to his and my chagrine).

    Why on earth BIA would restrict it's hiring pool when they are having trouble getting qualified candidates is a mystery to me.

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    Here is a copy and paste of the area of consideration right from the announcement:


    INDIAN PREFERENCE POLICY: Preference in filling vacancies is given to qualified Indian candidates in accordance with the Indian Preference Act of 1934 (Title 25, USC, Section 472). Verification Form BIA-4432 must be submitted with the application if claiming Indian Preference. Indian preference eligibles that are not currently employed in the Federal service
    will be appointed under the Excepted Service Appointment Authority Schedule A, 213.3112(A)(7). Consideration will be given to Non-Indian applicants (Status or Reinstatement eligibles) in the absence of a qualified Indian Preference eligible. Applicants not entitled to Indian Preference must be Federal civilian employees with competitive status or former Federal civilian employees with reinstatement eligibility and must submit latest Notification of Personnel Action, SF-50B.

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    BIA

    How hard is it for a non-native american to become a member of the BIA law enforcement wing?

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    Ok, Ok, Ok

    Gentleman:

    These are all legimitate questions and I will attempt to answer them for you..

    Swat 1 is correct in his last post with the Indian Preference Policy. Since 1934 the BIA has a Indian preference policy for qualified Indian applicants. This does not mean qualified NON-Indian applicants can not apply. Consideration will be given to qualified Indian applicants, then if no qualified Indian applicant then the selecting official can go to the Non-Indian certificate if one is attached.

    It is true, the law is written for those individuals who are currently in Federal Service or have left federal service and are eligible for reinstatement by the US Government.

    Sawt 1, appears you have the qualifications necessary for a SA position, and If I may ask did you apply for a position. You mention a position with Blackfeet Agency?? Did you apply for condiseration to work at another agency??

    To answer deputytx1979, the difficulty in getting into the BIA rests on your status, prior federal service (military, other fed agency, etc.) or if you do not have prior federal service .......

    Indian Preference is not limiting the selection pool ...... We have many Indian officers working for Tribal LE programs who could qualify for a LE position.

    I hope this help, again remember this is my observation of being in our agency for over 15 years.

    tomahawk134

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    Blackfeet

    Yes I applied to several 1811 positions within BIA. The problem is that if you are not an Indian applicant then you MUST be a current federal employee or a former federal employee with reinstatement eligibility. Therefore many very qualified persons who have Indian Country experience are NOT eligible to work in Indian Country for the BIA.

    Sorry Tomahawk, it just doesn't make sense to me to disqualify the many non-Indian LEO's with Indian Country experience, just because were not Native American.

    I would be more than happy to email you a resume.

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    Swat 1

    Please email your resume to

    ipachief@fiacom.com

    I will check into it, no promises, but I will check-in to it for you and get back with you.

    tomahawk134

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    Did you get it?

    Just checking to see if you got my emails containing the resume and KSA's and what you thought of them?

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    Excellent

    Swat 1

    boh both our attachements to the email. They look excellent. I am taking a look and having some personnelist review them.. I will let you know they are through.

    tomahawk134

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    Couple of Questions

    Tomahawk,

    Could use your' help. We have just hired a new officer for our patrol division who has graduated from the Indian Police Academy. The Department of Public Safety Standards and Training does not recognize the IPA and therefore is requiring him to go through the full DPSST Oregon Basic Police Academy (10 weeks). DPSST has a cross certification course (2 weeks) for officers coming from States with recognized academies. We need some help getting the IPA course recognized by Oregon DPSST. Any help would be appreciated.

    Also,

    Any news on the original topic?

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