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    HEY! Can you guys (CBP) carry any handgun while off duty? WE are not allowed to carry anything else than the one they issue us. It is a heavy hand gun and I really miss the Glocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheaircop2
    HEY! Can you guys (CBP) carry any handgun while off duty? WE are not allowed to carry anything else than the one they issue us. It is a heavy hand gun and I really miss the Glocks.
    Legally we can carry whatever we want. By CBP policy, if we carry our issue weapon with an authorized holster (they have a list of about five or six authorized brands/models) then CBP will provide legal protection if we are involved in a situation. I know that a lot of guys have their own off duty liability insurance and carry their own personal weapon. I usually carry my own H&K rather than my issue weapon and as of late with all of our guys getting into situations I've decided to carry my duty gun for a while until I can get my own liability insurance...just in case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intheaircop2
    HEY! Can you guys (CBP) carry any handgun while off duty? WE are not allowed to carry anything else than the one they issue us. It is a heavy hand gun and I really miss the Glocks.

    Oh, and ya, the Glocks are nice for off duty guns but we are getting rid of them and going to the H&K P2000 now so we won't have the Glock much longer anyways.
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    I worked with and for several 1811 S/A's who did not have degrees during my years with U.S. Customs Office of Investigations (now ICE). Almost all of them started with the Border Patrol, and later got picked up by Customs. I'm not sure how hard that would be today.
    As to guns in airports, you can legally put a gun and ammuntion into checked luggage on International flights. So, in the Customs hall, folks get access to their bags, and anything can happen. When I was in Israel, teaching Israeli Customs, they showed me some of the bullet holes from the Japanses Red Army attack in the Customs hall.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuth
    I worked with and for several 1811 S/A's who did not have degrees during my years with U.S. Customs Office of Investigations (now ICE). Almost all of them started with the Border Patrol, and later got picked up by Customs. I'm not sure how hard that would be today.
    Today it would be VERY hard, seeing as how ICE is experiencing a hiring freeze (LOL... sorry for the smart-@$$ answer... all in fun :D )

    On a serious note, applying for the more recognized FLE 1811 positions w/o a college degree would be quite tough, as you are competing against others, like myself, who not only have a bachelor's degree, but a master's as well. I'm working on building the experience, so that I'll have the one-two combo (experience AND education). My advice to the original poster is get the bachelor's degree education any way you can (full-time, part-time, online, etc.), because if you exceed the norm as far as experience (which you certainly will have to do w/o a degree), having the degree will only help you more (rather than making you just able to float in the applicant pool).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuth
    I worked with and for several 1811 S/A's who did not have degrees during my years with U.S. Customs Office of Investigations (now ICE). Almost all of them started with the Border Patrol, and later got picked up by Customs. I'm not sure how hard that would be today.
    As to guns in airports, you can legally put a gun and ammuntion into checked luggage on International flights. So, in the Customs hall, folks get access to their bags, and anything can happen. When I was in Israel, teaching Israeli Customs, they showed me some of the bullet holes from the Japanses Red Army attack in the Customs hall.
    Some Port Directors recognize the threat, others "don't want to offend people."

    When I first started with Customs I trained at the Airport before going to the Border. I went up to a Jordanian Air flight to do a Bypass on a passenger. I about crapped myself when the door opened up and there were four guys with automatic rifles standing there. I wasn't told ahead of time by my traning officer but they have armed military guys on their flights and they wait until their at the gate then they lock thier rifles up in a safe on the plane before deplaneing the passengers. That was an experiance I'll never forget. :D On the good side, the security guys were real friendly and we ended up (a year later or so) having such a good relationship with them that we used to go to dinner with them when they came in (some of them, obviously it wasn't the same guys every time). I kind of miss the airport...kinda
    I am a Paladin, like the warriors of old, ready to stand on the line to keep others safe... A Sheep Dog, ready to protect the herd from advancing wolves!

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