lateral transition for 1811s

[Kimble]

Do Fed LE agencies allow for lateral transitions for 1811 positions (ex: deputy marshal transfering to USSS SA, SA with ATF transfering to FBI SA, etc.)? If so, do they go through the same hiring process as job applicants? Do they retain their GS level from one 1811 position to another?

[Switchback]

The laterals occur regularly. It can't really be called a lateral, though. In some instances, you go through the regular application process as John/Jane Doe off the street. Of course, your experience/current position as an 1811 will help a great deal. Other agencies allow an abbreviated process. It may depend on several things... are you moving between Departments (DOJ to Homeland Security, etc.), sometimes it just depends on how that agency does things.

When you lateral, you may have to repeat CI school. Some agencies allow you to waive it if it has been less than 5 years since you went through. It may also depend on many of the same reasons listed int he last paragraph.

Generally spwaking, it all depens on your specific situation.

You may very well lose your grade, but you should not lose money. If you are a GS11-01, you may hire into a GS09 position. Rather than being a GS09-01, you may come in as a GS09-07... or whatever step GS09 would match (or slightly beat) the pay of the GS11.

[Group9]

I did a lateral transfer from one 1811 job in the Justice Department to another 1811 job in the Justice Department and I had to go through the entire. It only took about 8 months from start to finish which is pretty quick, though. I had to go back through an entire academy again, at the same location, doing many of the exact same things again, and almost sleeping in the same bed.

[eff-bee-eye]

So did you go from DEA to FBI or vice versa?

[Group9]

Visa versa. It's a small, but infamous club. I was on a drug squad and the idea of leaving it to work savings and loan fraud one day just didn't melt my butter. :D

[Sleuth]

I was an Instructor at our Academy for 9 years, we had folks transfer in from everywhere - FBI, SS, IRS, DEA, BP, INS, CIA, you name it. I don't know about the application, but they all had to attend our basic academy to learn our laws and 'corporate culture'.

I only knew one guy who transfered out - he left on a Friday, and 5pm Monday he was trying to come back. Too bad he told everybody off before he left - including the SAC. Talk about burning your bridges!!